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Slatts
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:48:43 PM

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Whose using what and why?
on this laptop, running XP Home, I'm running Avast.
I'd first heard of it here on this site and, as I'd just done a full reformat and re-install on it, it looked like the perfect chance to try something new.
There doesn't seem to be much of a hit on system resources. Scans don't make a noticeable impact on performance and updates are a quiet process till the yank tells me it's been done.
When the recent spate of virus Emails purporting to come from Microsoft came through it grabbed them straight off and asked me what to do with them. I chose delete.
so far so happy.
I'd give it a 4 out of 5.

So what have you got and waddaya reckon about it?

Edited by Slatts: 24/10/2008 07:53:09 PM

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Nat.W¿LL¿
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:55:07 PM

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okies well runing avast atm
4-5
Kaspersky: 5-5. nothing beats it. made in russia explains something...
AVG: 2-5 (lol). crap.
NOD:5-5. excellent on resources. and i can say that using a p3Eek!
symantec (corporate edition i have experienced):4-5
norton: -3-5
ums what else exists?
mental block.

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Slatts
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:11:22 PM

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on my main systems I'm running Zone Alarm security suit 7 on XP Pro. I've been running it since it was ZASS 6 and was the toast of the reviewers.
I've had no problems with it except a couple of months ago when a Windows update broke it.
The scans seem to take a fair portion of forever on my Athlon 64 3200+ system with 1.5 gig of ram.
Once again, it doesn't seem to take to much of a chunk out of the available resources. With the last Key update about a year ago I bought a 3 machine license for under $100. I don't know what it's going for now.
Last I heard, ZA had a bit of a problem playing nice with Vista. I don't know if that's been fixed yet.

I'd say a 3.5 to 3.75 out of 5

Edited by Slatts: 24/10/2008 07:55:25 PM

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Nat.W¿LL¿
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:20:06 PM

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i havent had much experience with zone alarm iv been told bull guards not bad tho. just had a friend who put it on 64bit no probs. been playing with IP cop lately lol. dunno if you would classify that as AV but..well its still some sort of security. performed very well. free too.

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Slatts
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:48:33 PM

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It's been a few years since I used nod32. It was my free AV of choise for a few years on win 98. It had a small foot print and a very good rep. It used to win all the mag AV shootouts.
Anyone still using it?
d'ya like it?
Why?

Edited by Slatts: 24/10/2008 07:51:13 PM

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

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Nat.W¿LL¿
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:51:22 PM

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i wasnt aware nod was available for win 98Tongue ohh well u learn somethin new everyday. i used it for ages until sometime i got something and it locked me out of nod..then i was stuffed. i tried uninstall/reinstall *sigh* it couldnt be revivedSad

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Slatts
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 7:59:34 PM

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Nat.W¿LL¿ wrote:
i wasnt aware nod was available for win 98Tongue ohh well u learn somethin new everyday. i used it for ages until sometime i got something and it locked me out of nod..then i was stuffed. i tried uninstall/reinstall *sigh* it couldnt be revivedSad

I'd go and look through my collection of old cover disks and see when it first appeared but life's to short.Brick wall

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

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Slatts
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:18:48 PM

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I first heard about Bull Guard AV here a few months ago. Have you used it?
How's it run?

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

Ask questions. There's no such thing as a stupid one, just stupid answers. (mostly)
Nat.W¿LL¿
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:20:37 PM

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yea see my second post...iv not used it one of my friends raves about his though. he did 64bit install no probs

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midbear
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:23:33 PM

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Ok I know I'm late into this one as well, but here goes.

CA AV on laptop and two desktops, AVG Free on another two PC's and McAfee small business on a couple of others - still under trial.

CA used to be great but know is a drag on resources, AVG free still excellent and McAfee - so far is my fav, lite on resources and seems to pick everything up.

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Nat.W¿LL¿
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:25:00 PM

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CA?

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midbear
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:33:54 PM

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Computer Associates, they used to use zone alarm security suite under license. They tweaked it for performance and it ran sweet. Unfortunately they went and turned it into the next norton Evil! bastards

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Nat.W¿LL¿
Posted: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:38:04 PM

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ah i see. nortonBoo hoo! ollld stuff now

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malai5
Posted: Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:12:29 AM
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OK all, I am going to be really honest here and say that I actually run Norton 2008 Internet Security on my old Vaio laptop and I have to say that it has given me NO problems at all.
I probably am living a charmed life or am living in a parallel universe and don't realise it because I seem to be the only one who has ever said this.
Sure, it slows things down a bit, but it's all relative when one is dealing with a 6 year old lappie that is starting to get the computer equivalent of Alzhimers. lol
Now where was I (oops it must be catching)

Now, of course on my Linux Desktops (yes I have more than one)One can't have too much Linux, can one. Eek!)I don't need any AV, except in Virtual Box on Linux where I run XP Prof SP3 and for that I use Avast AV.
Have to say I am pretty impressed at how little (if any) effect it has on the speed even running virtually, on XP. That has to be some kind of endorsement of a FREE AV.

Anyway, I guess being used to "free stuff" I should realise that it can and mostly is, as good or better than the "stuff" you pay good hard earned semolians for.

Cheers

Malai5

Edited by malai5: 25/10/2008 01:13:57 AM

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E=mc2
Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:33:47 PM

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Have been using AVG Free for several years now with no probs what so ever
(touch wood)

SirSquidness
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:48:31 PM
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The best antivirus soltion is....


Me!

When encountering a virus, I will do the following...
-Use HijackThis and Process Explorer to identify what and where the viruses are, and how they start
-Use a PE boot disk (Such as BartPE) to manually delete the virus files, load up the registry hives of the infected windows installation and remote startup entries.

For prevention of viruses, I use common sense (ie, don't be teh first person to use a crack or what not, stay away from various nasty sites etc).

For detection of viruses I use taskmanager, network activity lights* and general observations of how the system is behaving.

I use this solution every week, sometimes every few days. I defeat every virus I come across. I am an onsite IT guy, so I see quite a few.


* - the only virus I have ever had on my PC I found because my PC had a constant flood of activity over the internet. On further observation, it was a spambot that I had been infected with. I can't remember how I got it, but I know I knew how I got it back then. VET AV (which has since been taken over by Computer Associates) didn't pick it up. I learnt quite a bit from this virus, about where they like to hide, how to do various things to get rid of them, etc etc.

(FINE. Say what you will. So what if I don't tecnically count because I'm not a piece of software. See what I care Tongue )
Nat.W¿LL¿
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:53:51 PM

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dont be so cocky geez. just get an antivirus and save the time playing with a bazillion tools.

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.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:05:43 PM

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What he says it true though. Virus are pretty much limited to illegal goods. I still recommend anti-virus though.

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malai5
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:15:39 PM
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OK Sqiddy, one can do all that, but the big question is WHY???Roll eyes

That to me is all just common sense and the "hoops" you have to jump through, why do it manually when you can get ONE program to do it for you without all the fiddly bits and pieces.

Just remember this though. You have to get it ALL right, ALL the time, a virus/trojon has only to have ONE slipup/hole on your part and you're gone.
You can't stay awake forever.
That old saying is ringing in my ears:

"Pride goeth before a fall"

And in the immortal words:

"Do ya feel lucky, Punk???"

Cheers

Malai5

Edited by malai5: 15/11/2008 10:01:13 PM

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Slatts
Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:21:31 PM

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cometh mal,not goeth. sheesh!Wink lol

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

Ask questions. There's no such thing as a stupid one, just stupid answers. (mostly)
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