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bbjai wrote:Im just pointing out his illogical conclusion  The conclusion is hardly illogical...in line with the past few posts, clearly if a 'careful' surfer has no need for AV surfer and I have AV software, then I'm not a careful surfer. In which case, paying for AV software makes good sense. 
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Jim.Dude wrote:.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:Jim.Dude wrote:Ok, here's what you do...
1. Uninstall it.
2. Go to the store, part with some cash for a copy of any AV suite that isn't full of half-baked coding.
3. Install it.
4. Enjoy.
...free stuff never works real well. Try an uninstall, registry clean and a fresh install/update. You do realise that AVG and Avast are free home-user versions of business software. Emphasis on the 'FREE' version. They use the same technology and virus updates, the main difference is the licence. Edited by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.: 23/8/2008 11:14:59 PM
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I've got this really good tiger repelant. I've had it for over thirty years and it works perfectly. I've never had a tiger come near me. 
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Slatts wrote:I've got this really good tiger repelant. I've had it for over thirty years and it works perfectly. I've never had a tiger come near me. wtf? yea the tigers are pretty bad here too slattsy.....0_0
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Nat.W¿LL¿ wrote:Slatts wrote:I've got this really good tiger repelant. I've had it for over thirty years and it works perfectly. I've never had a tiger come near me. wtf? yea the tigers are pretty bad here too slattsy.....0_0 it made better sense last night. On sober consideration, less so 
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Slatts wrote:Nat.W¿LL¿ wrote:Slatts wrote:I've got this really good tiger repelant. I've had it for over thirty years and it works perfectly. I've never had a tiger come near me. wtf? yea the tigers are pretty bad here too slattsy.....0_0 it made better sense last night. On sober consideration, less so i went out and got un-sober last nite lol. got kicked out because i threw a drink at my ex and swore at him. iv not got that drunk before lol come home and done a format for a friend OMG i have never seen such a dirty machine AND i broke a nail getting the cpu fan off lol. only just finished it
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:Jim.Dude wrote:.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:Jim.Dude wrote:Ok, here's what you do...
1. Uninstall it.
2. Go to the store, part with some cash for a copy of any AV suite that isn't full of half-baked coding.
3. Install it.
4. Enjoy.
...free stuff never works real well. Try an uninstall, registry clean and a fresh install/update. You do realise that AVG and Avast are free home-user versions of business software. Emphasis on the 'FREE' version. They use the same technology and virus updates, the main difference is the licence. Edited by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.: 23/8/2008 11:14:59 PM Which is interesting, because I've not actually heard anyone complain of getting anything using the paid for one, but people with viruses + free AV software is very, very common occurence... Perhaps it's just that people who want free stuff are also more likely to download porn and viruses, rather than a reflection of the software... 
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Slatts wrote:I've got this really good tiger repelant. I've had it for over thirty years and it works perfectly. I've never had a tiger come near me. Ah yeah, no...lol. It'd be more like 'the rock actively identifies and removes Tigers as they attempt to eat me',
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Jim.Dude wrote:.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:Jim.Dude wrote:.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:Jim.Dude wrote:Ok, here's what you do...
1. Uninstall it.
2. Go to the store, part with some cash for a copy of any AV suite that isn't full of half-baked coding.
3. Install it.
4. Enjoy.
...free stuff never works real well. Try an uninstall, registry clean and a fresh install/update. You do realise that AVG and Avast are free home-user versions of business software. Emphasis on the 'FREE' version. They use the same technology and virus updates, the main difference is the licence. Edited by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.: 23/8/2008 11:14:59 PM Which is interesting, because I've not actually heard anyone complain of getting anything using the paid for one, but people with viruses + free AV software is very, very common occurence... Perhaps it's just that people who want free stuff are also more likely to download porn and viruses, rather than a reflection of the software... what are you insinuating? because i use a free antivirus that means i go and look at porn in my spare time?
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It would be a correlational (rather than causal) relationship, so no, not necessarily. Still, it would make a lot of sense that people who are willing to download and install free AV software are also more willing to download and install other free programs and in doing so, more likely to expose themselves to nasty programs.
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If the free programs are well known, then there's as much chance of a virus as paid software.
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Nat.W¿LL¿ wrote:Slatts wrote:Nat.W¿LL¿ wrote:Slatts wrote:I've got this really good tiger repelant. I've had it for over thirty years and it works perfectly. I've never had a tiger come near me. wtf? yea the tigers are pretty bad here too slattsy.....0_0 it made better sense last night. On sober consideration, less so i went out and got un-sober last nite lol. got kicked out because i threw a drink at my ex and swore at him. iv not got that drunk before lol come home and done a format for a friend OMG i have never seen such a dirty machine AND i broke a nail getting the cpu fan off lol. only just finished it So.. sinuses are better then? Wouldn't be out brawling in bars if you were still crook? How'd the reformat go? I find if I can see 2 monitors where normally there's only 1 it's not a good idea to get op close and personal with the hard drive 
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:If the free programs are well known, then there's as much chance of a virus as paid software. Not really. BitTorrent is incredibly well known, but there are literally hundreds of places where you can download it, along with some other crap (like the Yahoo Toolbar for example) that will only become apparent when you go to install it...
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Here's a little snippit I found over in the open source / proprietary thread. Quote:jim.dude wrote: Quote:malai5 wrote:
Yes Jim, the set and forget, go make a cup of tea and the uninstall is done scenario is how it has always been for me, up until this latest event. And yes, I have always used Norton AV on this laptop and have not had any problems. Maybe my dream run is at an end, maybe XP has woken up to the fact that an agent from the dark side has taken up residence on the D drive in the form of LinuxPC in VirtualBox. Maybe I have offended the fickle god of PCs and this is my punishment. Maybe all of the previous are coming home to roost.
However, the reinstall into a newly cleaned system seems to be running just fine (fingers crossed)
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Edited by malai5: 11/8/2008 10:44:17 PM
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Meh, you're problem was paying for rubbish software courtesy of Symantec. Sad There are so many better alternatives, many of which are free no less (e.g. AVG or ZoneAlarm). I found a definition over their for hypocrisy to. Jim can find it for you, he posted it. 
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Slatts wrote:Here's a little snippit I found over in the open source / proprietary thread. Quote:jim.dude wrote: Quote:malai5 wrote:
Yes Jim, the set and forget, go make a cup of tea and the uninstall is done scenario is how it has always been for me, up until this latest event. And yes, I have always used Norton AV on this laptop and have not had any problems. Maybe my dream run is at an end, maybe XP has woken up to the fact that an agent from the dark side has taken up residence on the D drive in the form of LinuxPC in VirtualBox. Maybe I have offended the fickle god of PCs and this is my punishment. Maybe all of the previous are coming home to roost.
However, the reinstall into a newly cleaned system seems to be running just fine (fingers crossed)
Cheers
Malai5
PS. Is that raining toads I hear outside, or is it the buz of the wings of locusts as they fly over a blood red sea.
Pray
Edited by malai5: 11/8/2008 10:44:17 PM
Edited by malai5: 11/8/2008 10:45:17 PM
Meh, you're problem was paying for rubbish software courtesy of Symantec. Sad There are so many better alternatives, many of which are free no less (e.g. AVG or ZoneAlarm). I found a definition over their for hypocrisy to. Jim can find it for you, he posted it. That doesn't make any sense at all. Just because Symantec is crap and AVG is better than Symantec (i.e. nothing), it doesn't therefore follow that AVG is good! Lmao... Think about it like this Slattsy, a cheap condom is better than unsafe sex, but abstinence is better again...it's a hierarchical thing. Here, for your education: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy
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Jim.Dude wrote:.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:If the free programs are well known, then there's as much chance of a virus as paid software. Not really. BitTorrent is incredibly well known, but there are literally hundreds of places where you can download it, along with some other crap (like the Yahoo Toolbar for example) that will only become apparent when you go to install it... Easy, download it from a trusted source. I've never had issues with downloading free software.
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Slatts wrote:Nat.W¿LL¿ wrote:Slatts wrote:Nat.W¿LL¿ wrote:Slatts wrote:I've got this really good tiger repelant. I've had it for over thirty years and it works perfectly. I've never had a tiger come near me. wtf? yea the tigers are pretty bad here too slattsy.....0_0 it made better sense last night. On sober consideration, less so i went out and got un-sober last nite lol. got kicked out because i threw a drink at my ex and swore at him. iv not got that drunk before lol come home and done a format for a friend OMG i have never seen such a dirty machine AND i broke a nail getting the cpu fan off lol. only just finished it So.. sinuses are better then? Wouldn't be out brawling in bars if you were still crook? How'd the reformat go? I find if I can see 2 monitors where normally there's only 1 it's not a good idea to get op close and personal with the hard drive yea funny you say that with the amount of crying iv done in the last few days they actually got better lol. yea the format was good..ok this is funny just got a fone call haha some of the drivers arent working. formats are easy but its dealing with the ppl after.
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hi Nat. If you start charging $60 an hour to work on peoples boxes (or booze to the price of) then you'll find they start searching for their drivers themselves. either that or you could start a really first class wine cellar. Good to hear about your sinuses. Not so good about the cure though.  I'd say time cures all ills or some such trite comment but I don't do clichés.  Edited by Slatts: 24/8/2008 05:38:28 PM
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Slatts wrote:hi Nat. If you start charging $60 an hour to work on peoples boxes (or booze to the price of) then you'll find they start searching for their drivers themselves. Good to hear about your sinuses. Not so good about the cure though. I'd say time cures all ills or some such trite comment but I don't do clichés. haha yea shit happens..just all at once. yea should try charging them
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now it wont assign IP addresses. any thoughts?
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