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Lenovo ThinkPad X300

Friday April 11, 2008
Written by Tim Danton
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saywot
Jul 4, 2008 8:11 PM
Personally I don't mind the "Retro" look but feel that the available storage on the reviewd machine will make it a bit less than useful. I'm at a bit of a loss to understand what you're supposed to use this laptop for. There's not enough room to have a decent speaker set and a music collection of any note, the screen size may make the viewing of video files less satisfactory than other machines that cost far less but you say it has a nice keyboard
So Im left thinking that it's in a bit of a no-mans land, it's not quite anything
but about $4 grand for a machine with these limitations - not for me


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cookieboy1987
Jul 4, 2008 9:53 PM
Even so, its quite nice, as well Lenovo is a good brand its just a newly branded IBM notebook. Even so $4K, which i cant afford is better than the desktop pc i have which is only a P4HT 2.4ghz dating backing about 7 yrs old
Sapphire123
Jul 5, 2008 5:48 PM
The hidden strength of this machine lies in its superb rescue and recovery software. No matter what the hardware specs, if a virus trashes your system, its just a piece of scrap until your get it going again. In that respect, the R&R supplied with the X300 is worth its weight in gold.
bbjai
Jul 5, 2008 6:27 PM
So really its just a business laptop. I like the idea of it being a great traveller notebook. Its light enough to take around on airplane trips. I never got the idea of sticking music into a laptop like this. The whole point of a laptop like this is to surf the web, do your office documents, and run any thing you need for work (which shouldn't be too intensive if your a traveller). If you need music there are plenty of SMALL and LIGHTWEIGHT mp3 players hanging around that could easily replicate a decent music collection (Ipod Nano anyone?). Thousands of people around the world work with laptops and listen to music on their MP3 player without ever having their music on their laptops. I might stick one movie or two movies in there just for entertainment sakes on a long haul flight but thats about all. At the end of the day the machine can't even process any games. The storage is more then sufficient for the purposes that alot of people will be using it for.
OfferMe.com.au
Jul 7, 2008 10:10 PM
the good thing about Lenovo is the software solution they provide, maybe they inherited from IBM, but you got to say, it's has the smallest design that make your life at ease, it's reflects years of business software development experience. I love the function and look of X300, I love more of the thinkvantage solution. Lenovo, keep it coming, better make me change my X300 to a X600.
ssaunders
Jul 9, 2008 10:30 AM
Finally a range of laptops, which people can now use for their original purpose.

Since the lightweight compactness of the unit people can now move it around now because of the Solid State Drive (SSD) (And we all know that many people move their laptops around when on, which is not good for the Hard Drive).

So I believe that we are in the age of the real laptop revolution finally having a range of portable laptops that are designed to be taken on the move, unlike the laptops that need to be treated like a portable desktop computer.

Thankyou Lenovo!! for designing a range of real ThinkPad’s for us.
SA Penguin
Jul 10, 2008 3:01 PM
I was reading the story of the design team. I really wish they'd kept the "butterfly" folding keyboard.

Maybe they'll make a "budget" version next. Dump the DVD for a docking station, and replace the VGA output for an old-fashioned serial port.

The target market would be anyone who needs to connect to legacy system, out in the field. Cisco routers, older mainframes, fire alarm panels, etcetera.

Of course, if someone offered me one for free [ahem], it would be Rude to turn them down.
miniman1993
Jul 12, 2008 8:51 PM
i think getting a laptop is a good idea and if its relible and is fast i would get his one.
totoaus
Jul 15, 2008 11:42 PM
First, I should declare that I am very blue from long experience with IBM through corporate IT experience on mainframes, minicomputers and PCs (& now Lenovo).
My present 5th laptop is a Lenovo 3000 C200 bought in panic, following a pair of IBM Thinkpad's (3 & 4) and two others whose brand shall remain unnamed. I also have used an IBM X-series while an intern, reviewed a range of laptops for employers.
My dream laptop for many years has been a ThinkPad T-series, with dock, external screen and other features making it an all capable laptop and desktop system; however the X300 often makes me wonder if I am not better suited to a powerful desktop and small laptop for travel (emails, and minimal data relevant to trip), and this is the configuration I mostly used as an intern.
In truth, much of what I could say in context of the X300 has mostly been said but I will add a brief thought about SSD computers. Despite their many benefits, I feel the SSD is currently premature because the sizes I have seen (32-64 GB) are so small. I would prefer to wait until sizes double or quadruple, which surely is not far off.
If it is still there, Sandisk's web site has an OEM SSD that is 320 GB in a 3.5 inch form factor. This is probably military priced, but would be fun to have 8 of these in a RAID 6 array in a desktop PC. More importantly, it's the size at which I think SSD is compelling when it becomes mainstream.
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Jul 16, 2008 9:31 AM
SSDs are great because you don't need to defrag them. I don't use more than 64GB anyway, so SSDs are pretty good for me. Of course, bigger is better, but we'll just have to wait.
dockris
Jul 26, 2008 5:15 PM
\:d/ Hi all..

Re the Lenovo. Have seen advertised on TV etc...but somehow have gained the impression that
Lenovo is a Harvey Norman brand. Can someone set me straight on this as am not at all impressed
with their brands. Too, like some others, would like more info on these puters.
Thanx:)
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Jul 26, 2008 6:08 PM
Lenovo is basically IBM, they bought their consumer computer section. Harvey Norman is nothing more than a retailer.
bbjai
Jul 29, 2008 7:36 PM
In regards to SSD people need to be careful if they are thinking of buying one for their desktop, there are alot of crappy ones out there that don't really have great times.
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Jul 29, 2008 8:06 PM
What do you mean by times?
bbjai
Jul 29, 2008 8:56 PM
I meant the read and write times that you will be getting. They advertise fairly good maximum speeds which are achievable but in real life applications they don't really hold water. Im talking about in particular the Transcend cheapies.

Atomic has a good thread going that talks about SSD's. Generally the people are saying the drives at price points which people can buy for their consumer PC's are horrible drives for everyday lives. IF you want quality you still will have to pay ends of the earth.
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Jul 29, 2008 9:05 PM
I agree. I thought you meant seek times for a second there. :P

The only cheap SSD I'd get would be the OCZ range. But the WD 640GB HDD is the best value storage solution at this time, and at half the price.
bbjai
Jul 29, 2008 9:17 PM
Yep it makes me wonder about the quality of the SSD drives they put in the laptops and the netbooks

I wonder sometimes really, if the fail rate and the read write teams are any good.
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Jul 29, 2008 9:40 PM
SSDs last longer than HDDs, any they tend to die slowly rather than suddenly. So that's a good thing if data redundancy is critical. Read/write speeds are good with the expensive drives.
bbjai
Jul 30, 2008 12:41 AM
Are the laptop drives expensive though? I can't imagine any of the netbook drives being overly expensive or of good quality
mordie
Jul 30, 2008 7:33 AM
bbjai wrote:
Are the laptop drives expensive though? I can't imagine any of the netbook drives being overly expensive or of good quality


From a random advert in last weeks green guide (The Age here in Melbourne's thursday lift out) Laptop Drivers for Seagate are $64(IDE)/$84(SATA for a 120gig to a 320gig Western Digital for around $127 or a 500gig for $297. *That's for the drives and does not include installation costs. :P

So yeah cheap ... Mind you my local K-mart and a 120gig Seagate external drives for $79 last weekend! ...soooo tempted!
behind the times
Aug 17, 2008 12:11 AM
RRP: $3999 (time of review) _ Over Priced ... Another six months they will be 50% less.
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Aug 17, 2008 10:17 AM
behind the times, if you're not willing to add content, then don't post.
Jim.Dude
Aug 17, 2008 1:05 PM
.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:
behind the times, if you're not willing to add content, then don't post.


Lol, that's ironic mate...
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Aug 17, 2008 2:58 PM
Jim.Dude wrote:
.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:
behind the times, if you're not willing to add content, then don't post.


Lol, that's ironic mate...

So is that.

I'm a moderator, it's my job. That user has posted the same message to three other posts, so I thought I'd point it out before I resort to suspension.

Edited by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.: 17/8/2008 02:58:25 PM
behind the times
Aug 17, 2008 11:35 PM
.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:
Jim.Dude wrote:
.::. wrote:
behind the times, if you're not willing to add content, then don't post.


Lol, that's ironic mate...

So is that.

I'm a moderator, it's my job. That user has posted the same message to three other posts, so I thought I'd point it out before I resort to suspension.

Edited by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.: 17/8/2008 02:58:25 PM



Cyb3rGlitch
[-x Firstly I never posted the same message three times :^o :^o Thank You, very MUCH.
Suspend me if you feel your almighty power requires you to . And finally I wont post again.
EVA :roll: crikey I thought this was a friendly place so I shall remain :-# By orders of

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kkam
Aug 18, 2008 11:24 AM
it will be interesting to see what devices like Intel's new SSD do to things like x300, I can only imagine that it will increase popularity.

SSD's becoming the norm is only a matter of time as their sizes increase and cost decreases.

I still remember about 1995 when I bought a 4x CD-Rom (not a burner, just the reader) for about $400!
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Aug 18, 2008 1:29 PM
behind the times wrote:
.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:
Jim.Dude wrote:
.::. wrote:
behind the times, if you're not willing to add content, then don't post.


Lol, that's ironic mate...

So is that.

I'm a moderator, it's my job. That user has posted the same message to three other posts, so I thought I'd point it out before I resort to suspension.

Edited by .:Cyb3rGlitch:.: 17/8/2008 02:58:25 PM



Cyb3rGlitch
[-x Firstly I never posted the same message three times :^o :^o Thank You, very MUCH.
Suspend me if you feel your almighty power requires you to . And finally I wont post again.
EVA :roll: crikey I thought this was a friendly place so I shall remain :-# By orders of

"Cyb3rGlitch"

NO REPLY REQUESTED or Desired.

Sorry, I thought your signature was a message. When you quote people, it's best to add content, otherwise what's the point?
edmund.tse
Aug 27, 2008 10:08 AM
kkam wrote:
SSD's becoming the norm is only a matter of time as their sizes increase and cost decreases.


On the note of SSD's, one thing that I keep hearing about is that SSDs only gives a few years' life. Is that true? Are there any early adopters of SSDs willing to share their experiences?
mordie
Sep 26, 2008 7:58 AM

I'm going to review my Lenovo X300 that I won on here over the weekend.

so far it's nice but wondering if the core speeds are alittle slow at 1.20GHz but I imagine it's due to the machine been a business one... :/ Full review coming :)
William Maher
Sep 27, 2008 11:15 AM
edmund.tse, while there is some FUD about SSD failure rates, I haven't seen anything conclusive yet. When I was over at Intel's Developer Forum recently, they were making a big deal about their new SSD drives being reliable.

Here is the story about Intel claiming 5 years of life for their new SSDs.

There has also been some doubt about the extent of SSD's performance benefits. In particular, some ultraportable SSD notebooks are copping criticism for being slow, and I've seen some of this blame put on the SSD. But the Atom chip and minimal RAM, would be a factor too.

This leaves battery life and quieter operation as benefits.

Intel's Nehalem platform claims to remove I/O bottlnecks on system performance - their technical people claim that this will mean big performance gains from SSD in the future, on Nehalem systems.

So, who are #!SUITS? Tell us more, I'm sure there would be people here who'd be interested to know who you are...



Edited by william maher: 27/9/2008 11:15:47 AM

Edited by william maher: 27/9/2008 11:17:28 AM
William Maher
Sep 27, 2008 11:22 AM
mordie, we'll be interested to see how you find the X300. OTher people looking at our X300 review might be interested to see your comments, if you'd like to post them as a "User Review" with PC Authority's X300 review. Click the User Review tab at the top of the X300 review page.



Edited by william maher: 27/9/2008 11:22:21 AM
edmund.tse
Oct 18, 2008 7:37 PM
Hmm, now that Lenovo has released their next model X301, we should be seeing a drop in price for the X300's...

But on their website today, the cheapest X301 is $3599 (2776-T8M) while the cheapest X300 (6478-18M) is $3799! What's the matter?! The X301 even has better specs!

I take it that SSDs should be reliable enough for general use - but it's a real shame that they're still so expensive. They come standard for the X300/X301 at 64GB (How can you even fit Vista + Apps on that?).

The next step up from that is to a 128GB one, which could just fit all your OS + applications. But to get that would be cost another USD$400 to upgrade... (You can't even customise the machines from Lenovo Australia)

I think SSDs still have a long way to go before penetrating the "general user" group of people.
mordie
Oct 20, 2008 3:16 PM
Ok I've played with X300 now for awhile and I'm about to spend the next week running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS after installing it on the weekend. So far I'm finding ubuntu is way fster than vista on this machine *grin* ... go sign :) ...Just getting shares to work ...weird that the ubuntu on the laptop when on a wired network can see my main-windows-box but can't see the folders I've shared ... Figuring this one out ..

Anyways the review in be in soon - promise!!!
mordie
Nov 10, 2008 10:50 PM
OK wedding and honeymoon are over now I can do this review at long last:P

Lenovo X300 mini review
by Mordie

The X300 is a 13.3 inch widescreen ultralight laptop featuring Solid State Hard Drive technology and uses low volt core2Duo to give a longer battery life. This machine weights in at around the 1.2 - 1.3Kg and is pretty damn thin! There are 3 USB ports, 1 VGA out, 1 gigabit LAN card, CD/DVD-WR and inbuilt WLAN boosting g, b and n draft wireless support. Also available but currently unuseable in Australia is the sim modem slot. Under the hood there is a 3 Cell battery and 2gigs of RAM. Battery life is around 3 hrs depending on use.

This machine comes with Vista Business pre-installed.

My version of the machine was also boxed with both vista business and WinXP sp2 recovery CDs

After playing with Vista Business on both my home and work networks I found the machines use of a low voltage 1.02GHz Core2duo chips was at times abit slugish. It seems that the design was intended that the inclusion of the Solid State Hard drive was to improve the proformance of the machine by giving it faster access times. I personally found the machine to improve is speed and use when I installed Ubuntu8.04LTS on to the machine. Since then it's ran like a dream.

Another downside, though not usable at the moment, I found was the design placement of the sim card slot underneath the Battery cell - You don't even know it's there unless your looking for it!!!

Over all this is a good business machine but is made usch better with use of winXP or Linux :)
malai5
Nov 10, 2008 11:49 PM
Congrats on your wedding, mordie.

I was interested to see that your X300 came loaded with VB but had the XP discs. It would have made more sense considering the small CPU to do it the other way round, as was the way on my T61 which has no shortage of grunt.
The problem here is that I am loath to use the VB discs that came with the computer as I don't wish to suffer a performance loss. I also have Mandriva ONE 2009 running in VirtualBox and that, even in virtual, runs as quickly as XP does natively.
I guess upping the ram by another Gig to 3 or putting in two 2 Gig sticks would solve any sluggishness with VB, but that is really throwing money at a problem that really shouldn't be there in the first place. (VB's hunger for ram)

Linux operating systems really do make a laughing stock of windows when it comes to efficiency.

Cheers

Malai5
mordie
Nov 11, 2008 12:10 PM
Well considering I had no issues when I installed Ubuntu8.04 onto the X300 (didn't have to do any tweaking at all - supprised considering there was a few people with issues..sound and wireless wise) I'd be recommending it to anyone using this machine over Vista Business ...

Will be "upgrading" to the new ubuntu release this week - Got the ISO down just need some more CDRs to burn it off :)

mordie
Nov 11, 2008 7:42 PM
ok upgrade to ubuntu8.10 went smoothly :) ....YAY! ... now i have to update my desktop machine dual boot :)

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