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Hrad347
9 December 2011
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But now tablets are being seen as redundant(read not value for money, compared with almost any laptop.) in some quarters and may go the way of the netbook and dodo bird.
Comment made about the PC & Tech Authority article:
Court rules in Samsung's favour, Galaxy Tab 10.1 available in time for Christmas?
After much toing and froing, the Australian judicial system has finally made a decision on the fate of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. See the price of the Galaxy Tab 10.1 here.
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amcmo
9 December 2011
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And your facts to back that up?
A good number of Fortune 500 companies are providing iPads (and presumeably Android ones shortly) to their staff as they have found them to be more effective than a notebook for some applications.
Airlines are giving them to pilots as electronic flight bags.
Some schools using them as electronic textbooks.
Seems they're not redundant yet. |
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photohounds
9 December 2011
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I can see tablets hanging in there for a while yet, too ... for some uses they are good.
Anywhere you would use a clipboard for instance.
They need to cost $100 as they are going to end up expendable.
Over $500 price for something like that is plain ridiculous, except to a fanboy worshipper. I have NO idea why ANY phone is 'worth' $700, either.
Sure, these things can be useful toys, but for all the fan boy and marketing fanfare, they are just commodities.
Things like these will throw the cat among the pigeons:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9222417/Tablet_priced_under_100_with_Android_4.0_surfaces?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2011-12-05
I can see the $500+ ones' sales declining fast in the next 2 years. Most businesses are not fanboys, they are pragmatic so farewell to rip-off prices and not a moment too soon.
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petergaskin
9 December 2011
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Very much doubt that tablets are finished. Add unis giving away ipads to their students for their studies...
The tablet market is far from dead.
As netbooks slowly ( or quickly?) disappear from the market, i believe that the price fo new l;aptops will rise quite dramatically. those sub $1000 laptop deals on the market will disappear - once netbooks leave the market.
So this may well lead a market for tablets around $500 and laptops for $1000+ |
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photohounds
9 December 2011
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The entry tablets at $100 will force the expensive ones down, $499 will be a SUPER premium price BEFORE Xmas 2012. Xmas 2011 will be the last year of "making hay"
The cheaper ones are getting inexorably closer to the abilities of the expensive ones. No hyper dot pitch screen will stave that for long. It adds little beyond bragging rights. Not unlike the pixel race in cameras, pixel count will be left for fools to debate.
Laptops will rise short term - HDD prices and are already forcing many to use SSDs.
If the HDD makers retaliate, that will be peeled away well before Xmas 2012.
Putting my crystal ball away now ... |
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photohounds
10 December 2011
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More legal tricks - expensive and guess who pays for their (ALL companies) legal crap?
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9222553/German_court_issues_injunction_against_Apple_products?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2011-12-09
Engineering and manufacturing innovation replaced by legal 'innovation'.
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skarpethinn
10 December 2011
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There is absolutely no way on God's green earth that tablets are going to be redundant, ever. They have too many applications (& i don't mean 'apps' - i mean ways to apply them) married to awesome portability, & they will only get better as various technologies improve and develop. |
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amcmo
10 December 2011
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+1
They're already very useful in a work environment. As you say, can only get better.
I don't agree with the $100 price point. A decent one has a $250 to $300 build cost estimate in Apple's volumes, let alone those of the smaller players. Apart from making a flimsy case and tiny shite screen, not too many ways of reducing the cost. The semi's in them are already dime store prices. As Intel haven't got their filthy's on the CPU, that's even cheap. The cheap ones being seen are shite.
Remember most analysts reckon Amazon are shipping a dollar or two out with every Fire sold, and they really are BASIC. Even the most friendly reviewers seem to give them a C to C+. Almost fine for their intended purpose, however poor touch response, slow, and targeted squarely at low cost consumption of Amazon media.
Photo, apart from straight purchase cost, in business 'value' is based on what you expect to achieve with a product in relation to it's lifetime cost. It does not necessarily relate to cost of manufacture. The OS and applications each have a value, as do benefits of applying the item to work tasks.
Example, $500 notebooks have been around for several years. Do you see companies buying them for serious work? We and companies we deal withare still paying $1500 and up for decent workhorses.
Edited by amcmo: 10/12/2011 04:33:15 PM |
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botiordog
10 December 2011
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its a great device but it cant turn me away from a xoom 2 http://www.phonesvilla.com/android/957-motorola-xoom-2.html |
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photohounds
11 December 2011
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$100 price point for recipe readers - great for order-taking mechanisms like restaurants. MacDonalds??? Warehouses - instant updates of manifests in shipping - etc. 7" is probably perfect for that kind of as it can be pocketed and you don't gawk at it for long when used for those tasks. Lots of good uses for tablets and prices WILL be driven down - faster than some think.
The Sammy supposedly has a noticeably better screen than the rest - so far.
Eye strain might be a risk for people looking at the sub-10" ones for too long.
I'm sure the lawyers are looking forward to the myopia compo cases :)
I was toying with a tablet to control music selection on the hi fi - too darn small - even the 12" lappie is only enjoyable to use for a short while - you just can't see as much text as you sometimes want. I tried the phone - it works, but it's a PITA with a puny 4" screen!
One of the little tabs will be just fine, silastic-ed to the wall in the kitchen as a recipe reader and a glance at the news:)
That's where this tech is likely going - cheap and ubiquitous.
The luxury prices won't last more than another year.
Edited by photohounds: 11/12/2011 10:07:16 PM |
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rubaiyat
12 December 2011
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My real estate agent makes excellent use of his iPad, for obvious uses.
Anywhere that needs access to data or needs to input choices can make good use of them.
Restaurants, hospitals, dentists, mechanics (if they can make one impervious to grease), receptions in hotels or any large organisations etc.
Like every new device they quickly find their ecological niche.
I agree with photo on the one point that for most people the price makes it an expensive toy, but then people love expensive toys. It's just another fad in mindless consumerism for them. |
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photohounds
12 December 2011
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Yep these things make great mobile display cases, all right.
All you need is a big clear screen and internet access.
Much of the rest is indeed mindless consumerism.
I certainly agree with the other poster that they are not going awway in a hurry. Just look at all the movies in the last 30 that have left us drooling for similar devices - some roll-up, some huge, some transparent - there's a lot of pent-up demand to exploit yet :)
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amcmo
12 December 2011
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Let me assure you, it is a great work device and while some may buy it as an upmarket media device, the corporates using it are certainly using a good range of it's capabilities.
It's only mindless consumerism for those few fanboys who buy it for the logo rather than capability. |
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photohounds
12 December 2011
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Sure, AM
It's also mindless consumerism if people buy goods that way exceed their needs "just in case". Like the guy in the pub who has been convinced to buy 4 kilos of "full frame dSLR" and gear because you "can make bigger prints with it" - but never has. Or a super-car for someone who may not even like driving.
Marketing at its finest - making people think they need things they'll never even half exploit.
And if the corporations can get 4 times as many adequate tablets (for the SAME COST), you don't think they'll be all ears? - presuming they actually have a need for portable data display/update - etc. in the first place. The CEO may well get the expensive toys, the WORKERS usually do not :-"
Ice cream sandwich on a Kindle Fire, anyone?
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/ice-cream-sandwich-kindle-fire/
What limitations?
Edited by photohounds: 12/12/2011 11:29:57 PM |
