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amcmo
6 October 2011
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Always sad when anyone dies too soon.
Regardless of whether you're an Apple fan or not, the guy had a level of genius that was one of a kind.
While he obviously was backed by extremely intelligent staff, I doubt that anyone else could have saved Apple, and his genius was in all of the products introduced since his return.
I hope that he was right in his belief that the Apple he left has a pool of talent and culture to sucessfully carry on his legacy.
Whether you're a Apple fan, Android or PC, the world of PC's and phones would have been considerably less interesting without a sucessful Apple, which was in large part due to Jobs genius and passion.
Comment made about the PC & Tech Authority article:
Confirmed: Steve Jobs has died?
Apple has confirmed the death of Steve Jobs.
What do you think? Join the discussion.
Edited by amcmo: 6/10/2011 11:21:16 AM |
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kevin_watters
6 October 2011
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Very well said amcmo. Very well said. |
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umbria
6 October 2011
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Requiescat in pace, Steve. |
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pvisser
6 October 2011
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Sad indeed to hear the news. He may have left a pool of talent and culture but does it include the creative genius that Steve was? I hope so, as amcmo is right to say that the IT/gadget world would be a lot less interesting without Apple. RIP Steve. |
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j876
6 October 2011
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Rest in peace Steve Jobs. Even though I am not pro Apple, you have made the IT industry come alive again and got the company you founded in the top of their game. That is impressive to say the least.
Condolences to his family and friends and Apple employees.
This is a sad day no matter what side of the fence your on. |
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ory_zm
6 October 2011
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Agreed with all the posts above, definitely sad no matter what when someone passes away prematurely, and no matter what camp you are at, it is pretty obvious that everyone (probably most people in the world I dare say) has gained from the work of this genius, and that the techy universe has lost a great visionary today. |
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rubaiyat
6 October 2011
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Steve Jobs was a frustrating man who drove many people to beyond what they thought was their personal endurance in pursuit of the great.
Just as he broke many who worked under him, he also broke himself.
In his relatively short life he built and created many times more than the legions of CEOs who claim to lead, but merely follow.
Like the Medicis he left a history of conflict with almost everyone around him, but built an enormous legacy that will grow only greater as time passes. The passions both for and against him will pass but his work will speak for itself.
That you either loved him or hated him is the mark of someone who ruffled the feathers of the comfortable but gave amazing opportunities to those who had the sense to grab them with both hands.
Some will look forward to the industry returning to unchallenged business as usual in his wake. I hope they are wrong.
Edited by rubaiyat: 6/10/2011 01:30:04 PM |
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photohounds
6 October 2011
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+1
I think Steve was one of the rare people that lit a fuse under everyone around to perform, including his competitors. Not in vain. |
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rubaiyat
6 October 2011
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If you only think of him as a businessman.
Definitely the CEO's CEO. |
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welshdog
6 October 2011
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I've never been an Apple fanboi but I have never doubted for a second that Steve Jobs was one of those valiant few who forced a paradigm shift albeit onto on a waiting world. The technological revolution he was a part of entirely changed our world in ways we haven't yet fully come to terms with let alone explored!
That he did amazing things in his first incarnation is without question. That he inspired changes in his company that signalled a revolution in both marketing and design is also beyond doubt. I suppose if he had a time to leave forced on him, then perhaps being made to leave whilst at the top of his game was a good a place to leave as any. He'll drift into history (and probably hyperbole!) as the inspiration of a thousand imitators, but I think I'll not live to see the likes of Steve Jobs again. |
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photohounds
6 October 2011
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How do you know it was Steve's FIRST incarnation, WD?
No one would accuse me of being a fruity fan boy either, but he left big shoes to fill.
Not to diminish the achievement, but the graph above looks artificially great, partly as Apple came from a paltry, almost-bankrupt base. The others were all viable before the CEOs took over.
With Linux, 50,000 extra (registered) users actually makes a difference.
On A WinMac graph, 50,000 extra users would be a mere bump.
Edited by photohounds: 6/10/2011 10:35:58 PM |
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petergaskin
6 October 2011
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How much more do you want from a great CEO? To actually save a company is one thing, but to then improve earnings is even greater!
Give jobs the credit for the great job he did at Apple. |
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amcmo
6 October 2011
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The graph is not based on any starting point, but is a straight income increase per month and total net income for quarter,
Impressive. |
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rubaiyat
7 October 2011
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1. Apple was never "almost-bankrupt" even at its lowest point it had billions in the bank.
2. That graph has absolutely nothing to do with what happened over 14 years ago.
3. Not wanting to be too cruel to Linux, but you could say they can't even give it away. Not for want of trying.
Edited by rubaiyat: 7/10/2011 12:04:47 AM |
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photohounds
7 October 2011
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PG: "Not to diminish the achievement" - that gives credit for a great job ... he deserves it.
OK Ruby, it looked to be to be a straight % - I could be wrong about the timeline represented, the graph could be useless for all I know, a Gimp cut and paste job.
Umm, you could say unkind things, but millions of web and file servers run Linux.
It resides at the heart of Google, Amazon, Credit bank de Suisse and millions of businesses, many of them large businesses, the leading stock exchanges have/are migrating. In addition to million-server farms, linux scales right down to all those smaller gadgets like routers, TVs STBs etc. etc.
Apache (another free OSS) is the leader in web server installations.
My Brother in law, sends experiments to the south pole using guess what?
6 diesel gens running 24/7 (on kero!) until they blow up. Switch to the next one and repeat etc. When it positively has to work and stay UP, Linux is often a good choice.
I had a look at the data it sends to his home in Sydney.
Credit where it is due? The desktop is not all there is to computing as I know you know.
There, you knew you'd get a rise :cool: :cool:
... it's late 8-[
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blockcentre
8 October 2011
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I agree wholeheartedly with just about everyone's comments here. The IT industry has lost an asset that will be nigh on impossible to replace.
I walked past the Apple store at Charlestown this morning. Would have thought they would have had tribute posters up or something like that? Perhaps it's too soon. What would have been a nice tribute is to dress all the staff in black skivvy's (or turle necks for the American readers). |
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welshdog
9 October 2011
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@photohounds: I meant first incarnation as the Apple Guru. I've no knowledge of any mystical paranormal connections to previous lives... tho who knows... yet? :)
@rubayiat: I'm sure I read somewhere that Steve Jobs himself said that when he returned Apple was within a month of being forced to close! |
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rubaiyat
11 October 2011
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welshdog
The situation was not bankruptcy but management dithering had lead to customers failing to commit to purchases because of massive uncertainty.
Everything Steve did was to remove the uncertainty.
He stopped the clones. Cancelled all but the essential models, canned the Newton. Blackmailed Microsoft into doing a cross platform licencing deal that cleared the deck of outstanding lawsuits. Sold a bunch of non-voting stock to Microsoft which didn't make much difference as far as cash reserves but made the doomsayers in Wall Street shut up.
He famously sacked a few people in elevators, putting the fear of Steve into all the Apple employees whom had famously disregarded management for years.
He brought in his own NeXT people into key positions and basically made it clear he meant business and the old Apple was gone.
I think his first initial success, the iMac, was not actually his, it was a project begun before his return, but he sold it like no-one else could and it was the first Mac in a long time that wasn't a bumbling PC knockoff.
Sometimes all that is needed to turn an attitude of defeatism into a conviction of imminent recovery with hope for new success is to make it 100% clear that new blood is in charge and massive change is underway. If nothing else it gets everyone away from writing their CVs and making phonecalls and concentrating on the job in hand.
I think you also have to take into account that Steve's would play up the "miracle" turn around. Amelio, the previous CEO, had already laid a lot of the ground work cutting inventory and bring costs back under control. Steve was a a very early implementor of the just in time inventory system, back at NeXT, so was well placed to take advantage of the deck cleared and ready for action.
Edited by rubaiyat: 11/10/2011 04:45:00 PM |
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amcmo
11 October 2011
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Emilio may have taken some steps, however having seen him in action in a previous company I never rated him.
Had no vision and did no favours for Natsemi. |
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vivianwest
18 October 2011
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bush didn't like computers and prolly didn't even know who that man was. |
