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Zengster
1 December 2010
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I don't know how Nokia won the best SmartPhone award =_=
Comment made about the PC & Tech Authority article:
The Best Tech Awards 2010: Winners?
Which brands are the most reliable, have the best support and represent the best value for money over more than 12 months of use? We tell you which manufacturers deliver, in 15 categories from PC to ISP
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dburton
1 December 2010
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Apple? Are you really serious? I presume the Nokia choice for the smartphone was to make us think you aren't complete fanboys. Apple products are designed for people who don't want to think about what goes on in their equipment. Fair enough, but readers of your magazine do think about their computers and want to tweak and twist until they feel somewhat in control. You have just slapped the face of most of your readers - very clever. |
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rubaiyat
1 December 2010
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So dburton
When will you be releasing your comprehensive survey of all Apple users, and readers of PC Authority?
I'm sure PC Authority will be particularly interested in the later, not having thought to do the research themselves. |
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rubaiyat
1 December 2010
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Apple's customers make the mistake of having experience with both Windows and Macs. That is guaranteed to have distorted their judgement.
PC Authority has now made the same fundamental error.
It is good that there are still PC users out there to point out where they have all gone wrong.
Ignorance is really the only way to maintain impartiality.
Edited by rubaiyat: 1/12/2010 09:55:59 PM |
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dburton
1 December 2010
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So rubaiyat
Just look at the number of articles in the magazine that concern Apple or the PC. I suggest that answers your question |
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rubaiyat
1 December 2010
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I don't know what the number of articles would have to do with anything, let alone what people think.
I read widely. It has never occurred to me to scratch a running total on the cell walls.
Edited by rubaiyat: 1/12/2010 10:39:42 PM |
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chooky78
2 December 2010
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dburton & others
Remember, results are based on information from readers, so PCA (sorry - PC&TA) editors and staff have no say in who wins these awards. |
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William Maher
2 December 2010
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Zengster and dburton, all the Award winners are chosen by the public. If you have a few minutes, take a bit of time to browse through the results to see why each brand won its category. In the Apple example, the PC results were strong - but those users weren't always as happy as Apple users. rubaiyat summed it up - the survey takes a snapshot of all users, not just one type. |
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Redial
2 December 2010
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The recommendations section of PC&TA has lost my confidence after they recommended Acronis. How could you believe a recommendation for Apple from a PC mag? |
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dburton
2 December 2010
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chooky78 and William Maher
Yes of course, I was too quick too respond. I get so tired of reading reviews that aren't connected to the real world, I overreact. Thanks for pointing out this is simply a reader response. |
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rex.withers
2 December 2010
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It seems to me that that your giving more and more of your attention to Apple branded products, Mac computers, iPad, iPad version mag, iPhone, iPod. It seems that your caught up in (and propagating) the hysteria of the mindless, shiny Mac Gen-Y marketing. I’m expecting another name change shortly Australian Mac monthly or similar.
I don’t have any of the above products but I do have 5 PC’s in my house a Windows based smart phone and I manage the IT for three organisations and make recommendations on products for business (and home) for some 70 people. By the time I exclude the Mac content from the mag each month, which isn’t of interest there isn’t much left.
I have purchased your mag every month for quite a few years now but I won’t bother any more. it’s a shame you used to be a great PC mag chocked full of useful PC content, thanks though it’s been a great few years.
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rubaiyat
2 December 2010
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Redial, et al
What are are saying?
1. PC Authority should test every other computer and electronics product except Apple's?
2. Having tested Apple's products and finding they are good, tear up its findings because you don't want to hear it?
3. Having surveyed their readership, only to find most rate Apple's products clearly the best, again tear up its findings because you don't want to hear it?
4. As a lifetime member of PC Nation, take no lip from those goddamn uppity Apple boys, round up some right thinking folks in pickup trucks, drive down to the commo satan worshipin' Apple Store, burn it to the ground and lynch all those stinkin' Apple lovers inside?
5. Every time you see Apple mentioned close your eyes and make it go away?
Edited by rubaiyat: 2/12/2010 02:36:55 PM |
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William Maher
2 December 2010
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dburton, not a problem. Good to hear from PC users who are just as passionate about this stuff. |
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rubaiyat
3 December 2010
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There has been a dramatic turn around on laptop sales in the USA:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20023909-64.html?tag=topTechnologyNews;topTechContentWrap
It looks like the old IT managers' tactic of making sure their clients don't ever get a taste of an alternative has finally broken down as consumers get their hands on iPads and iPhones and wonder what else Apple has to offer.
Dell is actually dramatically losing out to Apple.
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gone4good
4 December 2010
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rubaiyat wrote:
3. Having surveyed their readership, only to find most rate Apple's products clearly the best, again tear up its findings because you don't want to hear it?
I thought that the survey was available via their website to anyone, not just readers?
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rubaiyat
4 December 2010
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I think readership includes reading their website.
Paper is so 90's, although it seems a lot of the readers are still stuck with the hard copy and the included DVD, which I gave up on almost a decade ago. |
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gone4good
5 December 2010
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rubaiyat wrote:I think readership includes reading their website.
Paper is so 90's, although it seems a lot of the readers are still stuck with the hard copy and the included DVD, which I gave up on almost a decade ago.
The point is, its easy for any fanboi to access a website and fill out a survey without having to cough up any hard-earned to do so. You're not limiting the responses to those that actually buy and read the mag.
Do you buy the mag? Or do you just leech off the website?
Although they have adopted to adding Mac related content over the years, the mag would still be over 90% aimed at the PC market (wow, just like the OS marketshare). It's logical to assume that therefore the majority of their readers wouldn't own or care greatly about a Mac. They are far more interested in the latest graphics cards, laptop roundup, etc, etc. Otherwise they would simply buy a Mac focused mag.
I'm sure there are readers who do like the Mac platform, but for it to win best PC and laptop year after year it's pretty clear that the results are probably skewed based on those that come to the website to fill out the survey rather than those that do. |
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rubaiyat
5 December 2010
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You seem to think that Mac users have nothing better to do than stack PC mag surveys.
I do occasionally buy PC Authority when it writes something of interest to me. Which should be encouraging to the editors as it shows their readership is not going to go down the tube along with the PC platform.
For example I bought the magazine that brought me to this site when PCA wrote an article comparing Macs to, sort of equivalent, PCs and came to the usual conclusions, although conceding the Macs had certain pluses. The problem was there were a string of errors in the article that stood out like dog's balls. I had to hunt out this website and work out its slightly odd posting methods to even get my foot in the door.
Let's follow through with your "logic". How many of this tiny minority of Mac users does it take to outvote the vast majority of PC users?
They'd have to vote at 10 times the rate of the PC users to swamp the ballot. Really!?! Amazingly dedicated aren't they? I didn't vote so someone else would have had to vote 20 times to make up for me.
Interestingly enough I run into a lot of PC users who wish they weren't. There are lots of reasons why people use the least favored platform. Ignorance, work pressures, legacy, hand me downs, the oft repeated notion that they can't "afford" any better. But that doesn't mean they can't have aspirations and as they get to try the alternative and meet many other users who have switched and seem to like the alternative, they too make their own enquiries and make up their own minds.
You can see them clustered around the Mac counters in Myers, DJs, Domayne, JB Hi-Fi, Bing Lee and even one or two Harvey Normans. In the bigger cities there are of course the flagship Apple Stores. In the smaller locations or towns there are usually Apple Centres or Computer Shops also letting you have free play of Apple's offerings.
I am always astonished when chatting to people in PC stores or IT departments, how many closet Mac users or wannabees there are. And that is not even including all the iPod, iPhone, iPad users who can plainly see a good product line first hand. Apple doesn't list how many users there are in Australia but I suspect it is a bigger proportion than the USA. Unfortunately we seem to be confused as to where it is we live and accept the US statistics without question. |
