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Microsoft's XP freeze out to users: no upgrade to Windows 7, only Vista need apply
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Microsoft's XP freeze out to users: no upgrade to Windows 7, only Vista need apply

by Daniel Long  on Sep 17, 2009
"I would do a clean install anyway - I put Win 7 RC on a different disc from XP Pro. The main issue for me would be getting an upgrade price. So far, although things look better on-screen under 7 ..."
 
Keen to forget the PR nightmare that was Vista, Microsoft may have committed yet another blunder: Windows XP users will not be able to upgrade to Windows 7 without a totally clean install.

The great Microsoft migration begins again this year, as millions of Windows users pledge to keep up with the latest and greatest and embrace the power of 7. Except if you're an XP user. Based on the latest Net applications market share data - that's probably most of us, 71.7% of desktops to be exact.

But according to a Computerworld report, the Microsoft gods may have surrendered convenience for profit, giving XP users no choice but to create a fresh new install - hardly the way to get Microsoft users back on side with the OS giant. That report concludes the dire: that XP users should buy a new PC to get Windows 7, rather than endure a hair pulling upgrade of sorts.

Ironically, those using Vista, the same OS that instigated the Microsoft hate-a-thon from day one, are free to upgrade to Windows 7 without hassle.  Yes, all 18.8% of you out there: you should be counting yourselves lucky.  You are the chosen ones.

Regardless of Vista's virtues and even our good reviews of the product, the public image of Vista has been toxic.   So it's surprising to learn then, that Microsoft, for the second time, have left XP users to stagnate in a state of cryogenic freeze. 



The report also states that XP users won't be able to backup older programs and device drivers directly to Windows 7 either - a veritable headache for those who run specialist hardware devices that havn't had their firmware updated in time for the new Windows OS. Older games are likely to feel the upgrade pinch too.

In spite of the gloom, there is a little hope though. Microsoft's Easy Transfer software comes bundled with Windows 7 as a backup product and is supposed to help users save old settings with a fresh install (not a true upgrade).

But as Computerworld's Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols found out, it's a lengthy day job at best.  Which means if you're running a business with multiple terminals - it's going to be an intensive process to get XP systems up to scratch and even then he says, there's no guarantee the new upgrade will remember the older XP settings - nor is it likely to be a cheap solution for users, many of whom may not notice enough difference over XP to begin with. 

Microsoft is going to have to work hard to sell a new upgade to XP users, most of whom are perfectly fine with their aging software.

However, none of this has deterred third party software vendors from pushing their backup solutions to XP users left in the lurch. PCMover  gives XP users the ability to upgrade to Windows 7 at a price; supposedly under $20, according to this news post.

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Comments: 7
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mordie
Sep 17, 2009 6:14 PM
yep I had a email conversation with MS Australia awhile back confirming that there is only one upgrade path and that is via purchasing MS VISTA with the upgrade sticker on it ... so XP users have to dole over for the FULL retail price for the OS ... Also MS Australia are not doing any preorder deals like their US and UK online stores are currently offering..and to kick the boot in more MS Australia site points to the UK store that shows the preorder deal on the front page ... I have had confirmation from UK and US MS online stores that they WILL NOT take preorders from Australia...

So thanks for that MS Australia ...


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Microsoft's XP freeze out to users: no upgrade to Windows 7, only Vista need apply?
Keen to forget the PR nightmare that was Vista, Microsoft may have committed yet another blunder: Windows XP users will not be able to upgrade to Windows 7 without a totally clean install.

What do you think? Join the discussion.
vjay
Sep 17, 2009 6:30 PM
I really can't see the issue, I wouldn't expect MS to support users who are using an older system (re: XP) to upgrade rather than do a clean install. I'd recommend doing a clean install over an upgrade of an OS anyday.

That and there are more Vista users than you think, nearly every computer I repair was sold with Vista and the end users haven't rolled back to XP because they either don't want to or don't know any different.
Slatts
Sep 17, 2009 7:27 PM
I'm not sure if I'm reading this right.

Does XP qualify you for the upgrade licence for win 7 but just require a clean install?

Or do XP users have to buy the new install disk?

If it's the former, that's a bit of a bummer but what the hell, You're better off with a clean install anyway. It takes longer and requires you to reinstall all your programs but at the end of the process your system is better off for it.

If it's the latter, major bummer.

mordie
Sep 17, 2009 9:14 PM
Slatts, If there is a upgrade retail version it will require some passed MS OS check before it will install a clean install of it ..If I'm to understand how their upgrade discs work. I can't see how you can't not get away wth a full install oon Windows7 from XP the OS is SOOO different from Kernal to User (profile)... I've been testing Ent version for work at work and it's been a good experience so far- though the annoying setup of RSAT in to get AD tools going was fun (you'll know what I mean if you have been through it):P
Slatts
Sep 17, 2009 10:45 PM
slow down mordie, you seem to be tripping over the keyboard.
Are you saying that the upgrade version of win 7 will load after being given a peak at your XP installation media?:-k
As for your second sentence, there's far to many negatives in it for me to follow.](*,)
I think though that I understand what your saying about incompatibilities between XP and win 7s kernal and profile system.
As for remote server admin tools and active directory, I haven't had the pleasure.:p
totoaus
Sep 18, 2009 8:57 PM
I've read the article, but skipped much in the posts. Not everyone will be annoyed at this requirement. I know, because I am one (and I doubt I'm alone). What I have seen of the posts is people who want to jump immediately to upgrade, while I use the discipline I learned on mainframe & minicomputer systems, wait a few months, get the software in, study it and then install after warning all the users what's coming. This also gives MS time to fix bugs, offer the software at a lower price to boost flagging sales after the first rush, and hopefully decide XP users are worth considering.

I routinely wipe my HDD and rebuild from scratch at intervals ranging from 3-18 months, and have done since Windows was first released. I do this because no matter how much progress Microsoft makes over time, that is the only CERTAIN way to get the cleanest, leanest, fastest software build and it really isn't hard. I just Scribble a page of notes listing all the SW I need, check that I have backed up all the data, bookmarks etc to HDD & optical disk, then hit the big button to start. Email is on IMAP, so that ain't an issue, and while every 2-3 years I lose something, it is never anything important enough that I rue the
loss, so it makes for GREAT spring cleaning.

Lastly, the RC1 for Windows 7 makes it clear that some things are changing. Through a clean install I can easily start by adapting to those changes when I restore on the new build.

Since I use Windows Explorer for my backups, I don't have to screw around with that sort of software. This means that I can be back online fast by setting up email first, then reinstalling other software and data as I go. Timewise, it is fast (never more than half a day to be back on email & browsing), maybe three days to have the system all back up in full operation if I slack off, usually it's only a day. And some data never comes back off the HDD.

My system has not failed in 25 years,...yet.
Faustino
Sep 25, 2009 7:12 PM
I would do a clean install anyway - I put Win 7 RC on a different disc from XP Pro. The main issue for me would be getting an upgrade price. So far, although things look better on-screen under 7 RC (Nvidia 9600GT, LG W2252TQ), I've seen no compelling reason to upgrade - it's not aimed at my needs, and I'd probably leave it until I get a new PC.
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