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Pornography better for the kids than video games

by Emma Hughes  on Aug 14, 2008
Tags: Pornography | better | for | the | kids | than | video | games
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Online parent poll shows shocking results.
According to an online poll conducted by What They Play, 3,000 parents are more concerned about their child playing video games than drinking alcohol or watching porn.

The first poll which took place April this year, with 1,266 participants found that nine per cent of parents think repeated use of the F-word in games is unacceptable. A huge 37 per cent are more offended by a man and woman having sex on a game – where did their kids come from?

The second poll in August this year asked what parents were more concerned about when their child was at a sleep-over, here the results showed that parents were more scared about their child playing games like Grand Theft Auto than watching porn.

Love-making worse than swearing and games worse than porn – what is the world coming to?

John Davison, president of What They Like says that, "These poll results demonstrate that parents are as apprehensive about their children's media diets as they are about traditional social issues such as alcohol, drugs, violence and sex.”

The problem seems to be that only bad video games get any media coverage, and so parents are lead to believe that they contain drugs, violence and sex.

Mike Goodman further this by saying that, "If it's controversial, it leads.”

"Gamers know the truth, but non-gamers are influenced by what they see on the news, and they think video games are corrupting the morals of our youth."
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ValuesCoach
Aug 14, 2008 6:10 PM
G'day,

Where have these parents got their heads? Don't answer that ...

Maybe the laws are different where the surveys were conducted, but here in Australia adults who knowingly allow kids to watch pornography are open to being charged with sexual abuse of those children.

And that's only the legal aspect of the issue ... what about the moral issues of parents nurturing and protecting their kids to actually allow them to BE KIDS?

I guess it comes back to the age old problem - parents needing to invest time to hang out with their kids, find out what sort of games they enjoy, check out the content for themselves and turn game playing into family education and entertainment.

What do you reckon?

Your ValuesCoach,
Karyn Clarke
http://www.WinAtWorkZone.com/blog




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Pornography better for the kids than video games?
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Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 6:44 PM
God protect us from the watchers of 60 minutes.
bbjai
Aug 14, 2008 6:59 PM
Well it goes to figure

think about it
when kids watch porn
they can only watch it for so much time. Drugs? Most kids snap out of it pretty quickly

but games?
they go playing games for hours, even to the point of not sleeping, and not doing their school work.

Games are a dangerous things. I think people just need to limit their online time to be honest.
Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 7:07 PM
bbjai wrote:
Well it goes to figure

think about it
when kids watch porn
they can only watch it for so much time.


Oh. It's time limited then is it?

bbjai wrote:
Drugs? Most kids snap out of it pretty quickly


Or die.
or spiral down into addiction.

bbjai wrote:
but games?
they go playing games for hours, even to the point of not sleeping, and not doing their school work.

Games are a dangerous things. I think people just need to limit their online time to be honest.

I think parents need to be responsible for there children.
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 7:36 PM
hmmm thats an interesting statistic. i think i would rather let my kids play games then watch porn. thats just pathetic.
Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 7:42 PM
That's a lot of bull Nat!


in your avatar that is:d
Your post I agree with 100%
krazikiwi
Aug 14, 2008 7:51 PM
right...
interesting...
i would seriously consider restricting the time my kids spend on video games, and perhaps worry about what type of kids they befriend. but i think that porn is a no-no until they are old enough to buy it.
i have to admit that porn is a lot less worrying to me than drugs, alcohol, and cigarettes...
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 8:21 PM
Slatts wrote:
That's a lot of bull Nat!


in your avatar that is:d
Your post I agree with 100%


lol its a load of steer actually:P
bull with no nuts.

but seriously no porn ever right...RIGHT 0_o!!!
omg omg im never having kids anyway so i shouldnt be participating in this discussion haha. i can only say that i would let my kids play games because i do:D
krazikiwi
Aug 14, 2008 8:25 PM
you don't have to have kids to discuss them. just don't expect to understand all the crazy things parents say...
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 8:28 PM
but hey i live with both parties. parents and kids. i have a little sister shes...damn crazy!!
so i do know the crazy things parents say..ohh yesss i fall subject to it everyday *brandish fist*
Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 8:31 PM
i thought the photo had been touched up to remove the offensive bits:d
The reason I have to use this old 98 machine is that to get at an XP machine I have to kick the kids out of their online games.
And they're both bigger than me](*,)

They're both very responsible young men and since PCA sent me one of those flash rockstar thingies I can listen in to them when they're gaming. I find it very entertaining:d
krazikiwi
Aug 14, 2008 8:32 PM
i gues you could be called a translator of sorts.
is that avatar where you work?
and what breed is that btw???
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 8:34 PM
LOL the're bigger then u. scary stuff.
i dont mind 98 i was on that for years i still dual boot and use some things in 98
krazikiwi
Aug 14, 2008 8:35 PM
oh damn, slatts got in first...
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 8:36 PM
krazikiwi wrote:
i gues you could be called a translator of sorts.
is that avatar where you work?
and what breed is that btw???


umms no im jobless. doing certIV networking at TAFE.
i show cattle for people in my spare time just for the entertainment. it is a charolais was a good animal too got 2nd on the hook runner up reserve and 3rd on the hoof. i was very pleased:D that one i actually raised myself was my project for school
krazikiwi
Aug 14, 2008 8:43 PM
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
krazikiwi wrote:
i gues you could be called a translator of sorts.
is that avatar where you work?
and what breed is that btw???


umms no im jobless. doing certIV networking at TAFE.
i show cattle for people in my spare time just for the entertainment. it is a charolais was a good animal too got 2nd on the hook runner up reserve and 3rd on the hoof. i was very pleased:D that one i actually raised myself was my project for school


ok, well i know what charolais is, but asides from that i'm a dairy man.
when i think genetics etc i wanna see pics of the daughters, not the sons, lol
how much does he weigh? he doesn't look very tall but thats probably because i'm used to friesians.
Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 8:44 PM
er... on the hook?:shock:

:lol:
krazikiwi
Aug 14, 2008 8:46 PM
city folk, so evian
Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 8:51 PM
I sometimes get jobs at the abattoir I see what I eat. And I like it:d ;)
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 8:51 PM
krazikiwi wrote:
city folk, so evian

haha thats right on the hook. yumm steak.
ahh he was 300 live weight cant remember his boned weight. but got about $4/kg back. good genetics. was hand reared too so i only had to break him was already quiet. not too bad for bottle fed as for tall no he wasnt but they have to be under a certain age for led steer. i led a charbray once he was considerably taller due to the hump.
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 8:52 PM
Slatts wrote:
I sometimes get jobs at the abattoir I see what I eat. And I like it:d ;)


aww im not even that bad haha
krazikiwi
Aug 14, 2008 8:53 PM
yay. not so evian after all.
i'm pretty sure "on the hoof" refers to liveweight, and "on the hook" refers to carcass weight.
forgive me if im wrong
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 8:56 PM
well considering it was a show (lismore to be precise) there was both a led competition (on the hoof)judging them on their confirmation etc and a prediction to what might be like when they are slaughtered and cut up. and another competition judging the carcass (hook). he was 300 kg so when hes killed take out approx. 50% in bone and your left with 250kg in the edible part...
krazikiwi
Aug 14, 2008 8:59 PM
you mean 150kg?? or 500 kg live?
thats still a shitload of porterhouse anyhow...
Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 9:01 PM
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
well considering it was a show (lismore to be precise) there was both a led competition (on the hoof)judging them on their confirmation etc and a prediction to what might be like when they are slaughtered and cut up. and another competition judging the carcass (hook). he was 300 kg so when hes killed take out approx. 50% in bone and your left with 250kg in the edible part...

I think there must be something wrong with my maths...:?
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 9:03 PM
krazikiwi wrote:
you mean 150kg?? or 500 kg live?
thats still a shitload of porterhouse anyhow...


oh shite sorry gettin tired lol. yea 150 some might have been bruised from the truck ride or somethin but i dont remember, which that also accounts for non salable meat
Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 9:03 PM
This is not a race krazi.;)
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 14, 2008 9:04 PM
Slatts wrote:
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
well considering it was a show (lismore to be precise) there was both a led competition (on the hoof)judging them on their confirmation etc and a prediction to what might be like when they are slaughtered and cut up. and another competition judging the carcass (hook). he was 300 kg so when hes killed take out approx. 50% in bone and your left with 250kg in the edible part...

I think there must be something wrong with my maths...:?


yea that too. i never did maths at school my teacher brandished a knife at me and told me to get out:S so i did haha
Slatts
Aug 14, 2008 9:05 PM
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
krazikiwi wrote:
you mean 150kg?? or 500 kg live?
thats still a shitload of porterhouse anyhow...


oh shite sorry gettin tired lol. yea 150 some might have been bruised from the truck ride or somethin but i dont remember, which that also accounts for non salable meat

Ha! Bruised? You should see what I do with my tenderising mallet!:lol:
bbjai
Aug 15, 2008 11:28 AM
Slatts wrote:
bbjai wrote:
Well it goes to figure

think about it
when kids watch porn
they can only watch it for so much time.


Oh. It's time limited then is it?

bbjai wrote:
Drugs? Most kids snap out of it pretty quickly


Or die.
or spiral down into addiction.

bbjai wrote:
but games?
they go playing games for hours, even to the point of not sleeping, and not doing their school work.

Games are a dangerous things. I think people just need to limit their online time to be honest.

I think parents need to be responsible for there children.


I think you'll find that too much screen time in front of TV's and computers is becoming a major problem in society in general. Yes you are correct Drugs, porn and the likes are alot more dangerous to kids. The effects of drugs and alcohol in particular are pretty damaging to the health aspect of a young teenager growing up.

But if you think about it from the social perspective Computer games, the internet and Consoles/TV is becoming a major widespread problem in society. Lets think about it for a second. Games and internet are activities that people generally spend hours and hours doing. I myself remember hours and hours of playing Warcraft III and FF8, 9 and 10 During my high school years not to mention the countless times I played CS and Starcraft. Spending that much time in front of a screen can't be healthy for a person.

First off the rank is obesity, we all know that our country is struggling with an obesity problem. I don't want to stereotype but when you think of a computer nerd you usually come up with a person who isn't quite that fit and is on the verge of being classified as fat. Hours of watching TV, playing games and chatting/surfing online can do that to you. Not much cardio movement and the likes. Games play a serious role in this as does and in young people tend to do this more and more. I teach a small class in Sunday School for church and some of them spend up to 30 to 40 hours online each week. Be it playing games or chatting. No wonder they have a problem.

Second of all they don't develop social skills. Spending that much time communicating without moving your mouth will affect your social skills. People just aren't picking up basic social skills anymore cause they spend so much time with a screen instead of real people. Gone are the days when we use to hang out with friends at the local station or play a game of pick up basketball or cricket. Its now all about heading to the internet cafe or home computer to play some COD. Where on earth are kids going to develop their social skills from talking to someone through team speak?????

Its a developing problem in my opinion and people just don't see it there. I worked in an IT department from work for a little while (it was a bit of a secondment type project) and the number one thing that the director had a problem with the staff there was COMMUNICATION. They couldn't communicate properly.

Sure porn drugs give you tangible real life visiable problems. Games and computers just have more in depth unseen problems that you can't see or feel.

I think your right though at the end of the day its up to the Parents to show them the boundaries that they need to live by.
Jim.Dude
Aug 15, 2008 1:30 PM
ValuesCoach wrote:
G'day,

Where have these parents got their heads? Don't answer that ...

Maybe the laws are different where the surveys were conducted, but here in Australia adults who knowingly allow kids to watch pornography are open to being charged with sexual abuse of those children.

And that's only the legal aspect of the issue ... what about the moral issues of parents nurturing and protecting their kids to actually allow them to BE KIDS?

I guess it comes back to the age old problem - parents needing to invest time to hang out with their kids, find out what sort of games they enjoy, check out the content for themselves and turn game playing into family education and entertainment.

What do you reckon?

Your ValuesCoach,
Karyn Clarke
http://www.WinAtWorkZone.com/blog




Comment made about the PC Authority article:
Pornography better for the kids than video games?
Online parent poll shows shocking results.

What do you think? Join the discussion.



That this kind of thing is even up for discussion makes me sick to the stomache. Children are children. Exposure to overt sexual material at an age-inappropriate level is risking the basic social and emotional development of the child in a HUGE way.

Moreover, the entire point is insane. Suggesting that pornography is ok because violence is bad is just crazy. It's akin to suggesting someone eat a stick of margerine rather than a stick of butter...they're BOTH really bad for you!

Don't expose your kids to porn, don't expose them to violence, unless they're of an age where it is appropriate. It's just that simple.
krazikiwi
Aug 15, 2008 9:00 PM
well said jim.dude
and bbjai has a really good point too.
bbjai
Aug 15, 2008 9:11 PM
well it hasn't even been mentioned yet that sexual material is readily available in games too, GTA anyone?
Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball?

Games are just as sexually and violently charged as movies. I think the problem with games is that the amount of time children spend with them in comparison to say, porn or drugs. And also the level and scope which they affect the population.
totoaus
Aug 16, 2008 9:50 PM
Personally, I think it is up to parents to decide what their kids can or cannot do, and that no-one else has a right to comment.
Our modern communication networks (TV, Radio, papers, and Internet) are so pervasive today that virtually nothing can go without being analyzed by journalists, who education is in meduia & reporting only, not psychology, law or content rating.
Media reports like this make me wish for the days when reporters reported, rather than analyzed; where people actually had rights, privacy and a bit of respect for each other; and exercized them intelligently.
It seems to me that the more we communicate in any form, the more our ability to communicate degenerates: i.e quantity destroys quality. TV programs and the introduction of talkback radio are excellent examples. While there is much to like about the Internet (I think of it as the world's greatest library) it has allowed anyone with an opinion to express it, regardless of merit.
I find it takes concious consideration every time I am online, to internally analyse and assess every bit for relevance, intelligence and most importantly the answer to my search.
Two lessons I learned in my MBA recently are too always subject what I find to a "reasonableness test," and to remember that in today's world the real fight is to capture people's attention (after which you fight to keep it).
P.S. If you read this far, congratulations, get back to me and say so. Sadly, I cannot think of a way to learn how many lost interest.
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 17, 2008 9:10 AM
totoaus wrote:
Personally, I think it is up to parents to decide what their kids can or cannot do, and that no-one else has a right to comment.
Our modern communication networks (TV, Radio, papers, and Internet) are so pervasive today that virtually nothing can go without being analyzed by journalists, who education is in meduia & reporting only, not psychology, law or content rating.
Media reports like this make me wish for the days when reporters reported, rather than analyzed; where people actually had rights, privacy and a bit of respect for each other; and exercized them intelligently.
It seems to me that the more we communicate in any form, the more our ability to communicate degenerates: i.e quantity destroys quality. TV programs and the introduction of talkback radio are excellent examples. While there is much to like about the Internet (I think of it as the world's greatest library) it has allowed anyone with an opinion to express it, regardless of merit.
I find it takes concious consideration every time I am online, to internally analyse and assess every bit for relevance, intelligence and most importantly the answer to my search.
Two lessons I learned in my MBA recently are too always subject what I find to a "reasonableness test," and to remember that in today's world the real fight is to capture people's attention (after which you fight to keep it).
P.S. If you read this far, congratulations, get back to me and say so. Sadly, I cannot think of a way to learn how many lost interest.


i read that and i think u need to relax...we werent raving and ranting about "ur a shite parent dont like the way u raise kids" i think we just commented on the fact that some of us would do it differently either way porn is pretty boring. as are computer games (in moderation only, then its boring) get them a horse i say teach em some responsibility and that the sun still shines outside:)
krazikiwi
Aug 17, 2008 9:54 AM
perhaps a horse is a little difficult in some places.
but a bike will do.
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 17, 2008 11:06 AM
haha yea
Slatts
Aug 17, 2008 11:14 AM
I just went out and had a look Nat.
You're right!
the sun was still shining out there!:o
;)
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 17, 2008 11:27 AM
yay the suns nice here too but i have a sinus infection soo im goin nowhere outside. it hurts to breathe lol
Slatts
Aug 17, 2008 11:33 AM
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
yay the suns nice here too but i have a sinus infection soo im goin nowhere outside. it hurts to breathe lol

I've just had a job come in at a local pub. If I fix it they might give me free samples;)
Sinuses can be a real pain. Hope you get over it soon mate:)
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 17, 2008 12:28 PM
Slatts wrote:
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
yay the suns nice here too but i have a sinus infection soo im goin nowhere outside. it hurts to breathe lol

I've just had a job come in at a local pub. If I fix it they might give me free samples;)
Sinuses can be a real pain. Hope you get over it soon mate:)


is that free samples of alcohol!?:O
Jim.Dude
Aug 17, 2008 12:55 PM
totoaus wrote:
Personally, I think it is up to parents to decide what their kids can or cannot do, and that no-one else has a right to comment.
Our modern communication networks (TV, Radio, papers, and Internet) are so pervasive today that virtually nothing can go without being analyzed by journalists, who education is in meduia & reporting only, not psychology, law or content rating.
Media reports like this make me wish for the days when reporters reported, rather than analyzed; where people actually had rights, privacy and a bit of respect for each other; and exercized them intelligently.
It seems to me that the more we communicate in any form, the more our ability to communicate degenerates: i.e quantity destroys quality. TV programs and the introduction of talkback radio are excellent examples. While there is much to like about the Internet (I think of it as the world's greatest library) it has allowed anyone with an opinion to express it, regardless of merit.
I find it takes concious consideration every time I am online, to internally analyse and assess every bit for relevance, intelligence and most importantly the answer to my search.
Two lessons I learned in my MBA recently are too always subject what I find to a "reasonableness test," and to remember that in today's world the real fight is to capture people's attention (after which you fight to keep it).
P.S. If you read this far, congratulations, get back to me and say so. Sadly, I cannot think of a way to learn how many lost interest.


I'm afraid I have to completely disagree with you there mate. No parent has the right to engage in behaviours that harm an innocent child, even if it is there own. Likewise, no self-respecting populace should allow harm to come to an innocent child by not acting, even if that means telling parents how to do their job.

The rights of the child to a free and safe environment must come before all else, even if that means violating the autonomy of the parents.
Slatts
Aug 17, 2008 1:29 PM
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
Slatts wrote:
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
yay the suns nice here too but i have a sinus infection soo im goin nowhere outside. it hurts to breathe lol

I've just had a job come in at a local pub. If I fix it they might give me free samples;)
Sinuses can be a real pain. Hope you get over it soon mate:)


is that free samples of alcohol!?:O

I should hope so!
Didn't eventuate though. I had to retreat to the workshop and do some paperwork and raid the beer fridge.
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 17, 2008 2:00 PM
aw ](*,)
adnil63
Aug 18, 2008 12:56 PM
Children and pornography do not go together in my opinion. Video games are by far the
lesser of the two evils. But some video games are definately not for children. What
is showing pornography to children or allowing them to see it going to do to the
future.
gypsyman27
Aug 19, 2008 2:28 PM
I am a single parent (boy 17) and I'm pretty sure video games did not make my son the slavering hulk that he's become. (virtuoso,violin; honors classes; recruited by top schools for academic achievement etc.) He plays Madden Grand Theft Auto (all versions) and other criminal tomes, and that's what made him what he is today!
Jim.Dude
Aug 19, 2008 2:57 PM
gypsyman27 wrote:
I am a single parent (boy 17) and I'm pretty sure video games did not make my son the slavering hulk that he's become. (virtuoso,violin; honors classes; recruited by top schools for academic achievement etc.) He plays Madden Grand Theft Auto (all versions) and other criminal tomes, and that's what made him what he is today!


Seems odd that as a parent you would attriubte your sons success to video games, rather than say, the way he was raised... :-k
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 19, 2008 3:00 PM
Jim.Dude wrote:
gypsyman27 wrote:
I am a single parent (boy 17) and I'm pretty sure video games did not make my son the slavering hulk that he's become. (virtuoso,violin; honors classes; recruited by top schools for academic achievement etc.) He plays Madden Grand Theft Auto (all versions) and other criminal tomes, and that's what made him what he is today!


Seems odd that as a parent you would attriubte your sons success to video games, rather than say, the way he was raised... :-k


probably because the thread is about video games v porn
not parenting tactics...
Jim.Dude
Aug 19, 2008 3:41 PM
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
Jim.Dude wrote:
gypsyman27 wrote:
I am a single parent (boy 17) and I'm pretty sure video games did not make my son the slavering hulk that he's become. (virtuoso,violin; honors classes; recruited by top schools for academic achievement etc.) He plays Madden Grand Theft Auto (all versions) and other criminal tomes, and that's what made him what he is today!


Seems odd that as a parent you would attriubte your sons success to video games, rather than say, the way he was raised... :-k


probably because the thread is about video games v porn
not parenting tactics...


Just because it's in the thread title, doesn't mean it has to be a choice bewteen those two things. I mean, does anyone actually believe that playing videos games makes you a violin viruoso? Seems far more likely the hours of practise would have more to do with it. :-s

I say it's interesting, in that a parent would rate the influence of a video games over their own child's determination/effort...

Edited by Jim.Dude: 19/8/2008 03:42:47 PM
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 19, 2008 3:55 PM
Jim.Dude wrote:
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
Jim.Dude wrote:
gypsyman27 wrote:
I am a single parent (boy 17) and I'm pretty sure video games did not make my son the slavering hulk that he's become. (virtuoso,violin; honors classes; recruited by top schools for academic achievement etc.) He plays Madden Grand Theft Auto (all versions) and other criminal tomes, and that's what made him what he is today!


Seems odd that as a parent you would attriubte your sons success to video games, rather than say, the way he was raised... :-k


probably because the thread is about video games v porn
not parenting tactics...


Just because it's in the thread title, doesn't mean it has to be a choice bewteen those two things. I mean, does anyone actually believe that playing videos games makes you a violin viruoso? Seems far more likely the hours of practise would have more to do with it. :-s

I say it's interesting, in that a parent would rate the influence of a video games over their own child's determination/effort...

Edited by Jim.Dude: 19/8/2008 03:42:47 PM

relax....
Jim.Dude
Aug 19, 2008 6:28 PM
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
Jim.Dude wrote:
Nat.WÂżLLÂż wrote:
Jim.Dude wrote:
gypsyman27 wrote:
I am a single parent (boy 17) and I'm pretty sure video games did not make my son the slavering hulk that he's become. (virtuoso,violin; honors classes; recruited by top schools for academic achievement etc.) He plays Madden Grand Theft Auto (all versions) and other criminal tomes, and that's what made him what he is today!


Seems odd that as a parent you would attriubte your sons success to video games, rather than say, the way he was raised... :-k


probably because the thread is about video games v porn
not parenting tactics...


Just because it's in the thread title, doesn't mean it has to be a choice bewteen those two things. I mean, does anyone actually believe that playing videos games makes you a violin viruoso? Seems far more likely the hours of practise would have more to do with it. :-s

I say it's interesting, in that a parent would rate the influence of a video games over their own child's determination/effort...

Edited by Jim.Dude: 19/8/2008 03:42:47 PM

relax....


Lol...
bbjai
Aug 20, 2008 3:26 PM
gypsyman27 wrote:
I am a single parent (boy 17) and I'm pretty sure video games did not make my son the slavering hulk that he's become. (virtuoso,violin; honors classes; recruited by top schools for academic achievement etc.) He plays Madden Grand Theft Auto (all versions) and other criminal tomes, and that's what made him what he is today!


I'd be interested to know how long your son has spent on the computer a week averagely, consoles and TV etc.....

Some kids are spending upwards of 8 hours a day on machines playing games, surfing the net and just mucking around. Im pretty sure most of it is not porn.
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 20, 2008 6:21 PM
i wonder how much time i spend at the computer. prob too much to be healthy. might calculate it one week considering i spend from 9-4 3 days a week on them at tafe
bbjai
Aug 20, 2008 7:11 PM
Well if you think about an average kid who spends time on their computer for "work", I would say 80% of it is composed of Games, surfing the internet and chatting. and 20% of it is actually working. Since alot of kids can come back home after school (lets say 4:30pm) and then spend the next 5-8 hours until 10-12pm on the computer you can see where alot of Parents are thinking Games are a bigger threat. Lets not mention violent games (FPS, GTA) are much more visible to a parent then say Pornography. Its not healthy also for the children for developing social skills (I note one of my Sunday School students going to another , your not this shy on the internet.......). I think you guys are glossing over the social problems they present
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 20, 2008 8:10 PM
yea i agree with that. there needs to be a balance.
krazikiwi
Aug 20, 2008 9:04 PM
bbjai wrote:
Since alot of kids can come back home after school (lets say 4:30pm) and then spend the next 5-8 hours until 10-12pm on the computer you can see where alot of Parents are thinking Games are a bigger threat. Lets not mention violent games (FPS, GTA) are much more visible to a parent then say Pornography.


true, and i also think that games are more engaging, the player ineracts with it, so it therefore "controls" a larger amount of the players mind. and the player becomes a part of the game. children can quite easily lose the grasp of the difference between the game and reality, and this is where the major problem with violent games lies. what is acceptable in these games, may not be quite so acceptable in reality.
that is not to say that porn is good for kids either.
i think that both can be very damaging to a child's emotional development, and their integration into society later on.
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 22, 2008 8:05 PM
that reminds me. i seen this series on ABC like 6 months ago. some 16 year old, game obsessed, went on a crime rampage and killed several people. apparently the shots with the gun were dead accurate, they blamed all the late night 1st person shooters he was playing. im guilty of getting sucked into games for a long period of time but i use it as a shelter from reality, a way to forget about things just for awhile, when you game you thinking of nothing else other then whats happening on the screen. maybe parents should be looking into that too..
bbjai
Aug 22, 2008 9:54 PM
Oh im not doubting that pornography is bad for children,I'm just saying in this day and age children are alot more exposed to Games. Everyone in High School plays some kind of computer game some way or another. And the time they spend with a game is alot more indepth then the time they will spend with porn ever will be. Look at all the mass killing sessions involving video game references like Columbine and then the South Korean boy. The evidence is there and kids are lapping it in. I play Warcraf III from time to time and the amount of idiots in that game is ridiculous. They develop anti social behaviour quite easily and a sense of a big head. Thats just a RTS. What about FPS and violent games like Age of Conan. Its a disturbing fact that alot of gamers don't feel that danger.
midbear
Aug 23, 2008 12:12 AM
As a parent I must admit to getting freaked out by all of it! porn, violent video games and drugs. With so many teenage rampage killings being linked to video gaming either rightly or wrongly, I can understand why this is higher on the list than porn. But there are no easy answers to any of these problems. I have always made the assumption that with good open parenting you can raise mostly human adults, I mean most of us on this forum are the first generation to be bombarded with violent video games, online porn and cheap drugs and we are all mostly normal...aren't we?!?
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 23, 2008 8:54 AM
ahahah speak for yourself 0_o :P
midbear
Aug 23, 2008 1:24 PM
He he he...fair enough :)
bbjai
Aug 23, 2008 2:00 PM
Are we really bombarded with games and online porn the same way our kids are? I'm only 22 so technically Im still a young adult but I don't remember having the access to pornography or games at the level that my Sunday School students do. I didn't even have a mobile phone until I was like yr 10. Most of the kids now a days are getting their gadgets at what age 11 or 10. I even have one smartass whos like in year 6 and he reads Java books. No the exposure to offensive material is much greater then when we were growing up. We just don't realise it.
midbear
Aug 23, 2008 3:26 PM
Hey bbjai, I'm not too sure anything has changed much at all since the mid 90's when the internet really started booming. I'm 14 years older than you and although there were no mobile telephones when I was growing up, there were violent video games, violent movies were the norm, in fact the more violent the better. Porn was certainly easy to get hold if you were in to it via usenet (mid 90s on) or your older brothers/uncles/old mans collection of smutty mags or videos (before the mid 90s and were socially acceptable in the 70's and 80's). I personally think the only thing that has changed is the media perception of what is available and how easy it is to get since the mid 90's anyway.

I think the thing that has changed the most is how much kids know about this sort of stuff and that partly comes down to the internet but mostly comes down to the media (they tell us everything!!!) and our education system telling kids way more about sex and drugs than we were ever taught.

But the point I was trying to make is...regardless of what is happening around us when we are growing up, most of us grow up mostly good, because we grow up with mostly good people and that is were we really get our sense of self and belief systems.

bbjai
Aug 23, 2008 3:35 PM
I think thats a fair enough conclusion however I think the access levels have definetely changed especially to explicit material. Penthouse is fairly light stuff compared to some of the pornography obtainable now a days. The stuff people use to get is nothing compared to the the stuff available now. Same goes for games, in some ways the games are even more realistic. I guess thats where some of these issues are arising from.
midbear
Aug 23, 2008 4:00 PM
You have a point there, there is some graphic stuff out there. Games could conceivably have battlefield realistic violence, but hopefully as this happens societies checks and balances keep it all under control.

I have a feeling that gaming will continue to evolve in a very similar way to other means of entertainment and maybe we will have games based on comedy, sitcoms and intrigue as there is in other mediums and that could only be a good thing for the industry...but I transgress..again :)
bbjai
Aug 23, 2008 5:07 PM
I think the Wii has done alot to bring Gaming back to much more mainstream and therefore healthier options. I can't imagine someone playing Wii Fit for ages being negatively influenced as some of the other games would. Nor do i see it in Guitar Hero

The industry is being smart about it I must say.
freeman10
Aug 26, 2008 12:54 PM
It's up to the parents to monitor how much time and what type of games their kids are playing.it would bother me a lot more to think my children were secretly watching porn online.Because of chat sites its far to dangerous. You need to be vigilent at all times.
Nat.WÂżLLÂż
Aug 26, 2008 1:49 PM
gee. we had this drunk game we used to play where we randomly type anything into google or URL format like www.anything.com
it was really funny but i got sick of having to format the machine after every episode lol, we just make strange blended concoctions now. the stuff that used to come up from the URL game was SICK :-&
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