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tnetech
Jul 11, 2008 5:31 PM
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Sort of hard to believe that this is actually a story. If I find out that my bank use WFW to control anything I am taking every cent out of that institution!
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Microsoft to kill Windows for Workgroups 3.11?
Another operating system bites the dust, leaving the thousands of hours of time you spent playing Minesweeper just a memory.
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ray73864
Jul 11, 2008 6:03 PM
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"WFW was also the first Windows product to include the game Minesweeper, which some have suggested, cost businesses millions each year in lost productivity."
I disagree with that statement, Solitaire was the main culprit, it debuted in Windows before Minesweeper. |
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theprof
Jul 11, 2008 11:49 PM
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WFW is NOT an Operating System - it is a Menu Program that sits on top of DOS. Many people mistakenly believe that Windows before '95 was an OS but this is not so. |
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ray73864
Jul 12, 2008 9:57 AM
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If that is what you define WFW to be, then you must also define Win95 as the same thing because early versions of Win95 (a and b come to mind, might include C as well) required DOS to be installed before you tried to install 95.
This would mean that Win98 was MS's first actual GUI OS. |
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tesseractau
Jul 12, 2008 9:59 AM
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theprof is sorta right - WFW3.11 is nothing without DOS under it. It cant run without it. I remember a line in the old autoexec.bat file that just said "win" - and that was necessary (or it could be entered from the keyboard at a DOS prompt) to start/load WFW 3.11 |
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Dinks-c
Jul 12, 2008 11:45 AM
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Anyone still using WFW either resides under a rock, lives in a cave, or collects museum pieces. It's been 13 years since W95 was released, if their computer is still working after all these years I would be gob smacked! |
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Slatts
Jul 12, 2008 2:18 PM
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Dinks-c wrote:Anyone still using WFW either resides under a rock, lives in a cave, or collects museum pieces. It's been 13 years since W95 was released, if their computer is still working after all these years I would be gob smacked!
I've got an old system at work that used to run WFW 3.11. Some years ago I added some RAM to it to the tune of 32meg and loaded 98se on it. It's the most reliable machine in the workshop. I seem to recall it's got a 150megHz Pentium processor in it.
How's that mouth feeling Dinks?;)
NT was the first microsoft OS not to run on top of dos. It evolved to 2000 then XP, now vista.
3.11, 95, 98 and ME all ran on top of dos. ME was the best at hiding it.
Any one still running 98, try typing winfile or progman in the run dialogue in the start menu, hit enter and see what happens:)
Now that's retro!:d
Edited by Slatts: 12/7/2008 02:20:00 PM |
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bbjai
Jul 12, 2008 4:46 PM
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to be honest I can't think of a viable reason why you would bother running a machine like that. Wait no I would run Win 95 for Mechwarrior Mercanaries. That was an AWESOME game.
Someone should hook me up to a win 95 machine so I can. You know what I don't even remember Win ME or Win 98 or Win 95. I had them through the years but I don't remember how they work. How can you people still work with them!! |
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Slatts
Jul 12, 2008 5:28 PM
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bbjai wrote:to be honest I can't think of a viable reason why you would bother running a machine like that. Wait no I would run Win 95 for Mechwarrior Mercanaries. That was an AWESOME game.
Someone should hook me up to a win 95 machine so I can. You know what I don't even remember Win ME or Win 98 or Win 95. I had them through the years but I don't remember how they work. How can you people still work with them!!
It's only an OS. It had lower hardware specs so ran nearly as fast as the new stuff when it came out.
My 14year old has a number of emulators and a load of old games on his memstick.
He runs them on 98 on my old laptop (see why I'm competing?) or on XP at school or on one of my desktop systems.
We use the 98 machine at work for old communication software for remote system controllers.
You could always download Microsoft virtual machine software for free and load 98 on it to let you run mec merc:d |
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Jul 12, 2008 5:34 PM
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If it's a DOS game you can probably use DOSBox. |
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theprof
Jul 12, 2008 6:43 PM
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I think I still have a copy of Win 95 on Floppy disks somewhere - about 30 of them from memory, it also came on CD - but you needed a DOS boot disk to run the CD to load '95. Win ME was the first of the 'home' Operating systems to remove parts of DOS from beneath itself - hence the need to have a DOS disk to run some of the older games [or run in '95 compatibility mode] - ME was a hybrid OS - not fully DOS compatible, but not yet its own fully fledged self. |
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Jul 12, 2008 6:56 PM
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ME was an abortion of an OS. Horrible, horrible OS. I had to suffer with it for 6 years. :( |
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Slatts
Jul 12, 2008 7:11 PM
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theprof wrote:I think I still have a copy of Win 95 on Floppy disks somewhere - about 30 of them from memory, it also came on CD - but you needed a DOS boot disk to run the CD to load '95. Win ME was the first of the 'home' Operating systems to remove parts of DOS from beneath itself - hence the need to have a DOS disk to run some of the older games [or run in '95 compatibility mode] - ME was a hybrid OS - not fully DOS compatible, but not yet its own fully fledged self.
I've got a couple of 95 installation disks in the cupboard behind me- the original release and a copy of OSR2. I think I've got a copy of Office 95 and possibly a full installation set of floppies for 3.11.
OMG! time for a clean out!:oops:
I was using an IBM machine loaded with ME at work as well, but I think it died just before I went on hols couple of weeks ago. I don't think I'll resurrect it again. I'll lobby for an upgrade;) |
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bbjai
Jul 12, 2008 8:08 PM
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we found a floppy disk at work the other day and my colleague asked me what it was. I was like a floppy disk and she was like whats that??? |
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totoaus
Jul 16, 2008 9:39 PM
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When this OS was released, few experts considered it a worthwhile purchase, because it didn't offer anything new unless you were still on old versions of Windows (i.e. prior to Windows 3).
Many also considered it to be brain dead or stillborn, (rather like certain more recent versions) so to last this long is some achievement, no matter what. |