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nix
Mar 27, 2008 5:08 PM
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To be honest I don't feel my laptop is sufficiently specced to run Vista, and it's brand new. Anyway, sucks that they're not offering XP for sale anymore, but I guess the revenue they'd get from it isn't worth the cost of continuing support.
What do you think about the PC Authority article End of the line for Windows XP?
Microsoft is rolling down the shutters on Windows XP, although low cost flash-based laptop vendors get a reprieve from being forced onto Vista.
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chao
Mar 27, 2008 7:12 PM
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Stick to your OSX! |
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fred
Mar 28, 2008 2:00 PM
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Well I can honestly say that I have had no trouble with vista, oh there are a few minor problems, but nothing that makes me want to pull my hair out, but I can understand why people still want xp its called security in knowing its strengths and weaknesses. but really nothing is that different in vista.
You know some wisecracks were even saying that vista called have been called Windows XP Service Pack 3 such was the difference between vista and XP, and this was when vista was first launched |
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charonis
Mar 28, 2008 4:06 PM
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I agree with you fred. I have Vista and haven't had any real problems with it either. |
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nix
Mar 28, 2008 4:08 PM
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I think the main problem is that Vista is slightly slower, uses more disk space and RAM, and yet there isn't much you can do with vista that you couldn't already do in XP...
Having said that I am considering upgrading this laptop to vista, I suppose the search stuff is kinda nice :)
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charonis
Mar 28, 2008 4:28 PM
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Yeah, search is one of the cooler features of Vista. Although there are a few useless features, like window-tabbing to see that pretty much useless 3D-flip thing... I'll stick to alt-tab thanks. |
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A State of Asteroid
Mar 28, 2008 4:32 PM
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I have no interest at all in upgrading to Vista.
XP does everything I need it to, and I don't see anything in Vista that makes me think I need to upgrade. |
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Alistor
Mar 28, 2008 9:28 PM
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A State of Asteroid wrote:I have no interest at all in upgrading to Vista.
XP does everything I need it to, and I don't see anything in Vista that makes me think I need to upgrade.
Same here, don't see a need to upgrade. |
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fred
Mar 30, 2008 2:06 PM
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Microsoft derserves a lot of credit for making such a stable and fast operating system in the form of XP. The number of patches and service packs and security fixes over the years have finally made people not want to upgrade to vista or migrate to OS X for that fact, so say the number of people who do not want to leave XP.
Now only if those people had enough patience with Vista.
I'm sure the Mac Fans would tell you that they roughly would have gone through the same teething problems when OSX first came on the scene to replace System 9. |
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smadge1
Mar 30, 2008 9:50 PM
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To be honest, I don't see the point in upgrading to Vista.
Getting it on a new machine would be better. |
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nix
Mar 31, 2008 8:56 AM
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fred wrote:Microsoft derserves a lot of credit for making such a stable and fast operating system in the form of XP. The number of patches and service packs and security fixes over the years have finally made people not want to upgrade to vista or migrate to OS X for that fact, so say the number of people who do not want to leave XP.
Now only if those people had enough patience with Vista.
I'm sure the Mac Fans would tell you that they roughly would have gone through the same teething problems when OSX first came on the scene to replace System 9.
Having used OS X since the first public beta (on an underspecced machine at that) I can vouch for that -- and it did take several service releases of the OS to fix the issues. 10.3 was the first version I consider to be more or less perfect for everyday use. Does that mean we should all wait for Vista SP3? Bear in mind that Mac OS X really did get faster with each release, though this doesn't seem to be the case with Vista so far, despite the promises.
Also, Mac OS X was a HUGE leap over 9, far far bigger than Vista is over XP... yes, bigger even than Vista is over Windows 98, hard as it is to believe. You can imagine how painful OS 9 was getting by 2000... :)
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kevin_watters
Apr 3, 2008 10:01 PM
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I find that Vista is to Windows XP as ME was to Windows 98... it looks prettier, adds a couple of nice features but is a BLOATED PIG. Its a resource hog... and unless you are running a over-spec'ed machine it is NOT worth it. Its price-tag sent me to buy a new MAC and its the BEST decision I ever made. I don't know why I did not do it sooner.
In a business: its a nightmare times ten.
How many system admins out there have added VISTA machines to a Windows 2000 network ?? Try it. |
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Abz
Apr 4, 2008 9:28 AM
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[quote=kevin_watters]I find that Vista is to Windows XP as ME was to Windows 98... it looks prettier, adds a couple of nice features but is a BLOATED PIG. Its a resource hog...
I second that!
I find no reason to upgrade my hardware to run bloatware.
I have dual booted XP / Vista on a new quad core pc and xp is still the clear winner of all my benchmarks!! |
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foxmulder881
Apr 4, 2008 10:13 AM
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In regards to the aforementioned article, I don't really see the problem with Microsoft pulling the plug on new sales for Windows XP. It simply encourages users to source it from different places. There are 1000's of online stores that have new copies of XP for some time yet. Even eBay is a good example. A quick search reveals many users selling Windows XP. Heck, some users are even selling Windows 2000 and NT.
My point, is you can't get Windows XP at the local computer store anymore and if you're persistent enough, you'll source it elsewhere. |
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ArtMark
Apr 4, 2008 10:53 AM
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I say Keep selling XP as long as they can ,while people are still interested in buying it leave it on the market. look at win 98 it has hung around for decades so to speak ,I know one guy that still uses it on his old PC but now has a new PC and uses XP but he still likes 98.
As far as Vista goes, I have been a beta tester before it hit the market it had lots of driver issues and network issue all of those have been rectified to some, degree
I use both windows XP and Vista and Sometime still load windows 2000 pro on one of my testing machines and even vent back to win 98 my self .
Personally I think XP should be left on the market for some time ,Some people are still using NT and 2000 win Server and are to scared to make the change even to XP let alone Vista.
I like Change if its for the good.
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Barney
Apr 4, 2008 11:34 AM
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I agree, Vista (sp1) has put XP to rest.
Disable the resources robbing eye candy and configure out the other usesless garbage and it rocks.
Microsoft should give users the option during a Vista install to select a "no frills" W98 type interface. A little fossicking around and the average user can achieve this anyway.
Configured correctly Vista sp1 is faster, much more secure and cleary a superior OS to XP.
This hoo-haa happens with every release of a new OS, so take a deep breath and swallow the pill. |
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Caelum
Apr 4, 2008 12:01 PM
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Barney wrote:
This hoo-haa happens with every release of a new OS, so take a deep breath and swallow the pill.
This is true, and one thing i think most people forget(or have not yet experienced, due to age etc).
In the corporate environment, i'm not sure that vista has any significant advanges though, and in my experience it is more troublesome to administer, but this again could simply be due to the fact that there are many tools that have not yet been released for vista, and compatibility of older tools with vista is rather haphazard.
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
Apr 4, 2008 1:18 PM
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Vista is great IMHO, but I think Windows 7 is what's going to make all the difference. |
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ArtMark
Apr 4, 2008 4:15 PM
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:Vista is great IMHO, but I think Windows 7 is what's going to make all the difference.
You say theres a newer Version of windows happening soon .
Whatever happened to the so called longhorn that was to be last years OS but Vista came along instead.
Microsoft make to many versions of each OS why not just one Version suits all give us all the features in one OS and stead of breaking them into 3/4 versions,make the version with all but have it so you have the option to remove individual features as it installs ,like installing Office 2003 pro ,you can choose what features you want to instal on 2003 as it moves along ,you can add them all or remove say microsoft publisher if you chose not to use it at this time ,but the good thing is you can installthem later if you wish.
thats just how I see an OS of the future should install.
Mark.....
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Caelum
Apr 4, 2008 7:25 PM
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Longhorn is vista. Vista wasn't replacing longhorn. Longhorn was simply the codename for the windows version 6 operating systems. |
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tachyon42
Apr 5, 2008 2:00 PM
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Except Microsoft cut out the really useful stuff in Longhorn like the new file system.
Personally, I still mostly use Windows 2000.
Windows XP is essentially Windows 2000 with some trivial GUI changes - unless you have a 64bit CPU (and then need to buy the XP Professional x64 Edition)
I haven't used Vista but I get the impression that it's basically the same - a cash cow with little useful extra features unless you need the BitLocker technology in the Ultimate Edition.
Of course, there are real reasons to upgrade.
Some users may have use for some of the add-ons which are available as downloads for Vista and XP users.
However I believe the main reason to upgrade is the security patch releases each month.
Microsoft has been trying to force Windows 2000 users to upgrade by stopping support and releasing fewer security patches for Windows 2000.
Now it's the turn of XP users - SP3 is the last service pack (although judging by the lack of enthusiam surrounding its release it should have been called a rollup like the abortive Windows 2000 SP5).
In my situation I can live with Windows 2000 for the foreseeable future.
Hopefully, when I do upgrade it's because I see real value in the upgraded product rather than being forced into the upgrade by a Microsoft marketing policy which curtails the viablity of Windows 2000 in this security conscious environment.
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djaef
Apr 22, 2008 5:20 PM
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of course all OS'es evenually reach the end of the road. XP (at least aftr SP1) was and is a very solid OS but Vista is here for now, so there's no point crying over spilt milk. I ran XP for 6 years - I was happy to move on to Vista. I'm not overly impressed, but it's early days yet. |