Is Mac the future of computing?

Is Mac the future of computing?

Opinion: Paul Nesbitt outlines why the best PC for the job is an Apple Mac and how Apple controls its computers more than Microsoft ever did

2010 is being proclaimed as the year of the tablet, with Apple leading a headlong charge into a new model of computing for consumers.

Apple's big idea is to expand the successful model of the iPhone; first the tablet, then later new lines of portable Macs, which might have run Mac OS X, will instead run versions of the iPhone OS. The promise is of a new kind of wireless computing, free of the bugs, security hassles and OS upgrades of the traditional personal computer model.

To its supporters, Apple will also save traditional media by making it easy to charge for content, while incubating a thriving creative developer community with a new route to market (the App Store); and customers will enjoy a simpler, more predictable user experience, which ‘just works'.

But to some, the abandonment of the freedom to do what they like with their hardware and software heralds a worrying retreat back towards the stifling era of corporate control of computing, once brilliantly attacked by Apple in its ‘1984' commercial for the Mac.

If the App Store model gains ascendancy, argue the naysayers, we face a future in which our personal data is controlled by corporations, who censor what we can access and who can dictate how we enjoy media that we've paid for.

Harvard Professor and author of The Future of Internet - And How To Stop It, Jonathon Zittrain, claims that the rise of ‘tethered devices', (such as smartphones and TiVos as well as Apple's tablet), will ultimately reduce choice, constrain creativity and even threaten civil liberties.

Apple may have [in its own words] ‘ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II', but it could also be leading the abandonment of the principles that drove the early PC revolution.


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It's not just Apple, it's the cloud

Apple is not alone in pushing a post-PC paradigm. Google plans to enter the netbook market with Chrome OS, and Microsoft and Sony have invested billions in their respective games console platforms, in a bid to make them alternatives to PCs for many consumers.

This brave new world of cloud computing, centred around accessing data, media and runtime applications from remote servers, is where all the innovation, money and media interest is headed.

It's all in stark contrast to the traditional personal computer market, which is widely portrayed as a stagnating platform afflicted by malware, bloatware, and a leader, Microsoft, which has lost its direction. Apple may be selling more Macs than ever, but Apple's focus is on the next big thing, and that's not the traditional computer market, it's the App Store ecosystem.

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On January 5, Apple announced that more than three billion apps had been downloaded from its App Store. There are now over 130,000 applications available from the App Store, created by over 28,000 developers.

Market researcher Gartner calculated that global revenues from mobile apps sales reached $4.2 billion during 2009, and that Apple accounted for over 99% of these revenues. Gartner projects revenues from mobile apps will approach $30 billion. If Apple holds on to just half of this market its App Store will generate $15 billion, of which it would take $4.5 billion (30%).

These conservative assumptions don't factor in the extra app revenues generated by an Apple tablet, or another format like an Apple TV or future Apple laptops tied to the App Store. And then there are the cuts in revenue Apple will take from publishing e-books, online newspapers, movies, and other media on these new devices.

And of course, after customers have invested vast sums buying apps and content, they are going to think hard before buying non-Apple alternatives.

On top of that the iPhone model enables Apple to maintain its high hardware prices with subsidies from its mobile network partners. What company would not want to expand this model across its range of high margin hardware?

It's all rather like Microsoft's successful Windows lock-in strategy for the PC, except much more so. ‘In Bill Gates' wildest, proprietary, monopolistic dreams, he was never taking a 30% cut of any software sold on the Windows platform. And he was never trying to restrict how people develop or distribute software for Windows,' says Zittrain.

‘At most, think how quaint this now seems: he was trying to control whether you saw the Netscape icon on a PC desktop, when you first took it out of the box. And that was the thing that got the world obsessed by the Microsoft anti-trust case for a decade.'

While Apple does not have a Windows-style monopoly of the smartphone market, Zittrain does have a point: Apple's proprietary approach to the iPhone exceeds anything that Microsoft attempted with the PC.

And it says something for the open philosophy behind the personal computer pioneers, of which Apple was a key player in the 70s and 80s, that Gates & Co were never able to truly dominate the platform.

The PC revolution

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When the 21 year old Steve Jobs introduced the Apple II in 1977 at the West Coast Computer Faire in San Francisco, it was more than just a piece of hardware; it was the embodiment of an idea that computing should be personal, autonomous and programmable. In other words, your computer was yours to do with as you pleased.

This was a cultural as well as a business revolution, and significantly a creative one. The Apple II's open software and hardware architecture attracted creative people to develop for it. Under the existing order, controlled by giants like IBM and DEC, there was little room for quirky individuals to innovate and create new kinds of software.

Just as two guys in a garage, Jobs and Steve Wozniak, created Apple, so it was two more guys - Dan Bricklin and Bob Frankston - who came up with VisiCalc, the first spreadsheet for a personal computer. And it was Aldus' PageMaker which made the Mac a success, while creating a brand new industry, desktop publishing.

It's the unpredictable new ideas and breakthroughs that outsiders can bring to a platform that drive innovation and progress. That's why Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer used to break into the chant ‘developers, developers, developers' during some of his speeches.

App Store - developer's friend?

But with 28,000 developers and counting, and recent reports of two-man coding operations like Lima Sky becoming millionaires on the back of iPhone games, surely the App Store is encouraging a whole new generation of programming talent? And look at Tapulous, a small 20-strong iPhone games developer, which recently announced that its sales are approaching $1 million per month.

If you want to start up as an iPhone developer, you no longer have to approach a publisher and get distribution through stores; you can just submit your game to Apple, with minimal overhead, and if approved you get distributed through the App Store, the same as any other company.

Planet of the Apps, a documentary shown on the US CNBC cable channel in January, looked at the grass roots appeal of developing for the iPhone. Included on the show were a jobbing actor, a doctor, a bin man, two 13-year old boys and a start-up which specialises in turning people's ideas into apps.

According to CNBC, Apple receives around 1000 submissions from developers to get their apps ‘approved' and put on the App Store every day.

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But is Apple, a secretive company at best, suited as an arbiter of what people can download onto their own devices?
‘No-one would be comfortable in a world where Microsoft had to "approve" every application on a Windows computer,' says Fred Von Lohmann, senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Since the App Store opened, there have been numerous high profile reports of Apple rejecting apps for political or sexual content, or because Apple just doesn't want something which might compete with its own offerings or upset its partners.

Apple's refusal to approve the Google Voice, Mailwrangler and Podcaster apps seemed to be examples of Apple blocking software that could compete with its own current or future offerings.

Not surprisingly, Apple has attracted considerable flak from iPhone developers, many of them Mac loyalists, over the approval process. One was Joe Hewitt, who developed the Facebook iPhone app (and who in the past helped develop Firefox) and said he would no longer develop for the iPhone. He said his decision ‘had everything to do with Apple's policies' which he alleged were ‘setting a horrible precedent for other software platforms'.

It got so bad that Apple Senior VP, Phil Schiller, granted a rare interview in which he defended Apple's approval process. ‘We've built a store for the most part that people can trust. You and your family and friends can download applications from the store, and for the most part they do what you'd expect, and they get onto your phone, and you get billed appropriately, and it all just works,' he said.

But the fact remains that Apple has gained tremendous power over its developers, especially if they have invested time and money in creating an app for the platform which is then rejected.

‘If you're denied entry to or rejected from the App Store, what other recourse do you have to sell your software? Absolutely none. If you are permanently denied access to the App Store facility, make no mistake: the size of the market for your iPhone software is precisely zero users total.

You're out of the iPhone business and there's no way around that,' says Frasier Speirs, a developer who is no longer working on new iPhone applications. ‘The only way to know what Apple likes and dislikes is to look at what's already on the store. It's a much safer bet than inventing something new.'

The bad old days

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Von Lohman believes that Apple's success with the App Store will encourage its competitors like Google and Microsoft to follow suit, and that the result could be a throwback to the bad old days. ‘The tendency toward single gatekeepers controlling an entire ecosystem of tethered devices is a serious threat to liberty, innovation, and competition.

After all, this was precisely what IBM tried to do in excluding competitors for mainframe peripherals in the early days of computing,' he said.

At least IBM only controlled computing in the workspace. Today the reach of corporations and government goes directly into your home. In the US, EchoStar was ordered to remotely disable functionality in its customers' DVR players that had been adjudged to infringe on TiVo patents.

‘This shows how customers who have bought tethered devices could be hurt through no fault of their own because they happened to buy a product that infringes on someone else's IP,' says Zittrain.

click to view full size imageLast July, Amazon simply deleted copies of George Orwell's 1984 from US customers' Kindle ebook readers, without their consent. The reason? It didn't have to rights to sell them the download in the first place.

However, Amazon's decision to reach into their customer's Kindles and remove information was, well, Orwellian. ‘If Amazon can do this, then so can Apple with the iPhone or Microsoft with the X-Box,' says Zittrain.

No-one's saying that the personal computer model has been ideal. PCs have gained a reputation for being buggy, insecure, and complicated, but at least when you buy one it's really yours.

It can't be bricked or zapped by its manufacturer, and you can put whatever software or content you like on it. If you don't like one piece of software, you can install a third party alternative, and no-one can stop you.

Wouldn't it be great if there was a PC which was secure, easy to use and yet free to do with you as you please? It's called the Mac.

Do you agree? Add your opinion below.

This Feature appeared in the June, 2010 issue of PC & Tech Authority Magazine

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Comments: 34
oscarcharliezulu
31 May 2010
Whatever people think of Apple, as least they offer a separate innovation path not constrained by Microsoft (ok, as does the linux world), giving people choice. I hope they continue to innovate to stave off total platform lock-in by one platform.


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j876
31 May 2010
Apple is the master of marketing and not of innovation.

Many people don't understand that you have a limited choice of hardware and software for Apple because everything needs their approval.

Flash isn't supported by the iPad or iPhone as an example because Adobe is a competitor. Microsft Silverlight also isn't supported. So much for an alternative.

Also their hard line stance nearly sent them broke.

To say macs are more secure is absolute nonsense its just that hackers can't be bothered breaking in to a minority platform YET. When viruses and worms start appearing on iPads and iPhones we will see how secure they are.

What about macs changing to Intel processors and chipsets? Sounds like a PC with an apple keyboard and one-button mouse.

Give apple some credit, they market very well. But as far as been superior to a PC which has totally customisable hardware Apple are not even close.


oztabletpc
31 May 2010
"The promise is of a new kind of wireless computing, free of... OS upgrades of the traditional personal computer model." Every time I plug my iPhone into the PC it or iTunes wants to do an update... Could you please check to see if you under Apple hypnosis at the moment?

I've had an iPad for about a month now, and the Wifi is one-bar of signal everywhere. Apple's suggestion: move closer to the router. So I have to go and stand 3 feet away in an apple approved fashion... This can not be the future of computing. After a month with it, I beleive that the iPad is a toy that will soon be forgotten (at least by intelligent people).

As for reading news papers and magazines... Those things are still dead in the water and not even the iPad will save the print media. I consume all of my news via Google. iPad does not do this well at all (every page constantly reloads when you come back to it, it is soooo slow) and I can not see any value in loading the Australian's app... I mean who wants to lock in to one newspaper when you can read from sources all over the world?

Saying that Apple is the future of computing is akin to saying that the one-button mouse is the future of input!

If you want to find a company that represents the future of computing, it is still and has been for a long time Google (and I'm personally not a fan of Google).
firewuff
31 May 2010
I'm wondering how hard it would be to bring an anti trust case against apple for excluding an app or developers from the app store? I lothe the idea that i can't freely use the hardware I bought. I also think that any platform where it cost the developer to release free software is ridiculious. Apple will eventually out compete itself with vast homonogey or as with biology, when the virsues hit they will be hard and horrible given there is no variety in the eco system.
davidald
31 May 2010
Macs are always being compared to PC's because Windows based PC's set the benchmark. I prefer to build my own computers and thats not a realistic option with Apple stuff.
stolennomenclature
31 May 2010
Cloud computing - sounds like market speak. Don't know exactly what it is, don't want to. Microsoft, Apple, Dell, etc - whats the difference. Its all just another means to part the consumer from his money.
Nato
31 May 2010
If apple wants to control what you can and cant do on your own computer then i guess the rest will try at some point but im not to fussed, Apples are kinda fun to use but i allways end up using a pc to get what i need done, so to me they are really like a mannequin in a fancy outfit.
jimstead
1 June 2010
Apple and Disney both are aware there is a noticeable market for a safe clean place. Doesn't have to be for everyone. As Steve said, Android is your porn place.

As for the people who like to talk "monopoly", you should download a dictionary app. Monopolists have *no* competition; Apple is just one player in the cellphone market. Buy something else. And if you're a developer, pick another platform you like better.
SunnyGuy53
1 June 2010
>>Apple is the master of marketing and not of innovation.

Actually, Microsoft better fits that description.

>Many people don't understand that you have a limited choice of hardware and >software for Apple because everything needs their approval.

They sell the same hardware that's in any PC -- just fewer kinds of beige boxes. So stick with what you prefer. Millions of people obviously prefer Apple's products.

>Flash isn't supported by the iPad or iPhone as an example because Adobe is a >competitor. Microsft Silverlight also isn't supported. So much for an alternative.

Flash and Silverlight both run on a Mac -- although Adobe has never bothered to give Flash tier one support on the Mac, so many of us Mac users run ClickToFlash, so we don't have to burn all our CPU cycles on that detritus.

>Also their hard line stance nearly sent them broke.

Their so-called hardline stance seems to have made them one of the most profitable companies in the world, with a market cap greater than Microsoft's nowadays. And speaking of which, it's surely not easy to compete SUCCESSFULLY against an illegal, predatory monopoly.

Sunny Guy

To say macs are more secure is absolute nonsense its just that hackers can't be bothered breaking in to a minority platform YET. When viruses and worms start appearing on iPads and iPhones we will see how secure they are.

What about macs changing to Intel processors and chipsets? Sounds like a PC with an apple keyboard and one-button mouse.

Give apple some credit, they market very well. But as far as been superior to a PC which has totally customisable hardware Apple are not even close.
SunnyGuy53
1 June 2010
Whoops. This crude editor made me forget the rest of your post. ... Here it comes.

>To say macs are more secure is absolute nonsense its just that hackers can't be bothered breaking in to a minority platform YET. When viruses and worms start appearing on iPads and iPhones we will see how secure they are.

If you ever learn about computer security, you will find out that UNIX and UNIX-like systems (including Linux), can easily be made more secure that Windows -- which is a giant kludge of an OS. Don't take my word for it -- ask Mr. Google.

>What about macs changing to Intel processors and chipsets? Sounds like a PC with an apple keyboard and one-button mouse.

I don't see the point here. Not only do Windows and Mac OS X run on Intel CPUs, but so does Solaris, Linux, and other OSes. The OS is the system -- not merely the hardware.

>Give apple some credit, they market very well. But as far as been superior to a PC which has totally customisable hardware Apple are not even close.

Not sure what you mean. Macs sells like hotcakes, so Apple is obviously doing things right. I guess that's why Steve Jobs is running the company, and not someone with your mindset.

Sunny Guy
kisap
1 June 2010
> Apple is the master of marketing and not of innovation

Can't agree. I have been using Apple products 20+ years and continue to do so simply because they fit my needs and they are affordable. And I never read Apple advertisements or newsletters or any Apple PR stuff, only tech specs when I purchase new products. When ever Apple release new stuff I first read Apple haters' web sites. Then I wait a couple of weeks and then I read the real users experiences.
laird
1 June 2010
Mr Nesbitt, your article is interesting, but what Apple is doing by controlling apps on the iPhone and iPad is not new. Pretty much all consumer electronics platforms are at least as locked down as the iPad. Don't compare the iPad to the PC/Mac, compare it to the Playstation, the Xbox, and the Wii (or TiVo, Garmin GPS, cell phones, etc.). Those are, like the iPad, platforms that normal consumers buy by the millions specifically because they are NOT like general purpose computers, but instead are nice, simple devices that just work. As a software developer, I like platforms that are wide open, but as a consumer, I have to admit that it is nice to be able to simply use a device and have it work.
danerd
1 June 2010
hi, i think everyone has to agree that specific software that is written for specific hardware will always run smoothly, i mean there is no escaping that.windows operating systems have to run on slightly different hardware because pcs are all a little different in hardware setups. i remember years ago i was running windows ME on my old ibm computer, it ran like a sewing machine, it never crashed,i never saw the blue screen of death, the reason for this is that my computers hardware must have matched windows ME exactly, because all of my friends had problems with ME BUT they had slightly different machines to mine.i recently moved to MAC, so far no problems and the mouse can be set up to have left AND right buttons.it does what i want it to do and it might not be a power house the fact is it serves my purpose.---cheers--
btk1w1@hotmail.com
1 June 2010
When I BOUGHT my iPhone I gave it a chance. I attempted to configure it how I wanted it and spent upwards of $50 in the app store. Just to have a nicely configured piece of advanced hardware. What an EPIC FAIL all that was.

I don't want iTunes on my PC but I want music on my iPhone, Apple doesn't want it to work that way. Creating an OS system backup image of my PC with and without iTunes was too extreme. I tried various alternatives to iTunes but still didn't do it for me.

Jailbreaking my iPhone was the only answer. I can now drag and drop my music... Just like ANY other MP3 player market. I can also among many other things use Bluetooth to transfer files across to other devices and platforms.

I have now voided my warranty because of breach of copyright (what the?!?!?) and if anything goes wrong with my phone I will not be supported for what would most probably be a software issue. My guess is it won't be long before there is an iPhone backup and restore app available in cydia.

If apple made cars there would be no headlights because it would be too risky to drive at night. There would be no seatbelts because you couldn't drive fast enough that any impact would cause damage. You can get places but only along predetermined paths of Apples choosing.

I know I would never buy one of these cars, and likewise I will never buy another Apple product.

Freedom of choice... Not an Apple catch phrase... But one every consumer has the right to.

Message typed from jailbroken iPhone.
Nato
1 June 2010
Apple fanboys have bad memorys, if it has a x86 type processor in it then it's all from pc arcitecture, apple never used it and always bagged pc's for using it. When apple almost went bust cause there hardware could not compete they had to swap over. That was the day apples originality died and it just became a locked out os.
pidasms
1 June 2010
macs "just work" because they only do what apple allows them to do, which is not to work! Cant use them at my work anyway-several different complicated bits of software only work with windows-currently supported veriosn only, and only 32 bit, and only with internet explorer browser. the other operating ssystems wont do this that or the other and we arent going to bother with expensive attempts to get a work around, only to have to do it again with the next update! iphones also dont work-they wont bluetooth files, they wont play windows media files, they cant be used as a disc drive on a friends computer, they dont have the otherwise ubiquitous micro sd card, they dont allow use of a spare battery for extended use in the bush away from power-the list is long of things that apple products wont do. i had a look at an ipad-same problem-it doesnt have bluetooth, no sd card or usb slots, no wifi networking ability except for internet (ie cant drag and drop files across wireless like one can with a netbook)-so its not at all a holiday away from the computer device, and I dont want to sit in a house with one when I can play with a large screen!
As for Mac pricing-laptops and computer towers with the same hardware specs(and now by the same manufacturers!) are aroun $1000 more for a reasonably high specification one. I suppose I am a bit annoyed at all the marketing hype, but no matter, the android phone is outselling the iphone in the USA, so I think you are premature in suggesting apple is the future of computing! They will not capture either the business market (except graphics) or the low end market with their current strategy
photohounds
1 June 2010
Mac and its derivatives is not a great deal more than glossy, strictly (monopolistically) controlled Linux.
That's a good thing in a future-oriented discussion.
IBM learned first with OS/2 - the juggernauts can't keep up with bugs squashed in a few days, they are too bloated to be able to react as fast as the open source movement has proven it can.

One waits for the current KDE desktop features to be 'reinvented' in Windows 8.

New non-Mac Apple OSs no doubt owe more than lip service to Linux as well. Linux-like OSs and OSS in general show us the future of computing and Mac is just a stepping stone along the way. No point being sour in 4-8 years because you've bet the wrong way.

OSs like Android are also set to make inroads into tough nailed-down markets with superior, cheaper, more flexible and above all free platforms.

Bring on the future, it is bright indeed.

As for writing viruses, yes it can be done. Linux has shown for over a decade that it's harder to crack than Windows. No point looking for other 'reasons' to prop up the Win religion. The emperor has never worn any clothes - if you didn't see it, that is not the fault of those who can.

NSA (et al.) wouldn't use their own hardened Linux versions if WinMac could do the job as well. They cannot.
j876
3 June 2010
Dear SunnyGuy53,

Let me point out something to you, UNIX, Linux and Windows are all programmed in the same porogramming Language C++ so they are all breakable give a good computer hacker time and they will break it.

Billions of people own PCs as opposed to millions of mac owners.

Second, google's Chrome browswer sends searches back to their servers so I would't trust google with a ten foot pole for security.

Third, apple uses proprietry driver platform for their OS and unless OEMs pay royaltes or get approval, they can't make hardware for macs.

I have used both platforms and I much rather prefer having a choice of hardware from many vendors than just one.

Also are you aware that Microsoft owns shares in apple and they bought the shares when they were cheap (when apple was going broke)?

Food for thought.
SKASSIS
5 June 2010
The beautiful thing about it is that if the app is not accepted by Apple, you can recompile and submit as an android app. Either way the dollars start flowing in like a flood.
rubaiyat
17 July 2010
Macs are the future for PC users.

For Mac users they are just computers.
Slatts
17 July 2010
rubaiyat wrote:
Macs are the future for PC users.

For Mac users they are just computers.


Yes, well.

That's just sad.

.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
17 July 2010
Macs aren't even the future for Mac users. Phones are.

At least, that's where all the profit comes from...
rubaiyat
22 July 2010
Reminds me of all those genius DOS users who "Couldn't possible use a mouse or Graphic User Interface".

The first human who invented fire was probably immediately burnt to death, then the "right thinking" members of the tribe, after a suitable delay, "discovered" fire "done right".
blockcentre
22 July 2010
.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:
Macs aren't even the future for Mac users. Phones are.

At least, that's where all the profit comes from...


x2

Apple will become a device and digital distribution company.

rubaiyat
23 July 2010
blockcentre wrote:
.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:
Macs aren't even the future for Mac users. Phones are.

At least, that's where all the profit comes from...


x2

Apple will become a device and digital distribution company.



And filthy rich, where poor old Microsoft will fade into digital senility.
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
23 July 2010
rubaiyat wrote:
where poor old Microsoft will fade into digital senility.

No they won't. They'll eventually go the IBM route, and focus on research.
rubaiyat
25 July 2010
That'll be a novelty. Obviously not original research.

IBM has always innovated, not a word I have ever associated with Microsoft.

Microsoft has spent its existence either looking over the shoulder of the bright kid in front or stealing other kid's lunches.
blockcentre
25 July 2010
rubaiyat wrote:
stealing other kid's lunches.


Apple has done their fair share of that.

.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
25 July 2010
rubaiyat wrote:
That'll be a novelty. Obviously not original research.

IBM has always innovated, not a word I have ever associated with Microsoft.

Microsoft has spent its existence either looking over the shoulder of the bright kid in front or stealing other kid's lunches.

You obviously aren't interesting in being objective. Microsoft have done a lot of original research. They spend billions of dollars on it every year. Perhaps you should do a little of your own research...
rubaiyat
25 July 2010
They may spend billions, any fool can do that, but show us the billion dollar results.

I have many memories of Microsoft's "innovations" that held the industry back for decades for Ms's benefit. Particular memories such as Microsoft telling everyone how bad GUI was and not to touch it with a barge pole. The dross that has been Internet Explorer. Microsoft double crossing IBM and many other "partners". Also when Apple produced TrueType and the QuickDraw GX print engine which they shared with Microsoft, Microsoft's share of the deal was to produce TruePrint which no-one ever saw because Ms just couldn't or deliberately wouldn't produce the goods.

Apple foolishly gave many Get of Jail Free cards to Microsoft.

Ironically Microsoft the great "crusader" against piracy itself stole the technology, used to register and protect its own software, from Uniloc, a tiny Australian developer and is still stringing them through the US courts with the help of some very odd decisions by judges squashing jury verdicts for Uniloc.

The only thing to bear fruit that I can see which is directly due to Microsoft is the virus industry. Microsoft wrote all the enabling technology, most of it intended for their own intrusion into users' computers.

Edited by rubaiyat: 25/7/2010 11:11:33 PM
rubaiyat
25 July 2010
blockcentre wrote:
rubaiyat wrote:
stealing other kid's lunches.


Apple has done their fair share of that.



I'm happy to bag Apple, give me some ammunition.
.:Cyb3rGlitch:.
26 July 2010
I think you're confusing the past with the present, in a discussion about the future.
rubaiyat
27 July 2010
I've been around long enough to know that when people say that was then, this is now, that what they are really saying is business as usual.

Irregardless tell me what you know of the future, I've got a lot of hard cash to invest.
rubaiyat
27 July 2010
j876 wrote:
Apple is the master of marketing and not of innovation.

To say macs are more secure is absolute nonsense its just that hackers can't be bothered breaking in to a minority platform YET. When viruses and worms start appearing on iPads and iPhones we will see how secure they are.



Over a million Windows viruses and counting. Remind me how many on Mac OSX?

All those people who absolutely hate Apple and Macs and not one successful virus, trojan, worm, spyware…?

Obviously it is because the "hackers can't be bothered". :roll:

Oh, "but they will any day soon!"

Talk about a cracked record.
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