ABC's iView puts The Bill in your browser, and sends message to Telstra
Jul 24, 2008 5:11 PM | 6 Comments


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Comments: 6
terryo
Jul 25, 2008 12:58 PM
I think you are drawing a very long bow to have us all believe that the only provider on the new NBN network will be Telstra. Please.....

This is scare mongering at its worst and you know it.

Telstra has repeately stated that it would operate an open network that would be available to all access seekers.

It is nothiong but fancifull to say the least that Telstra would have the NBN network all to itself... Come on what fools do you take us all for.

On the existing ADSL platform offered by Telstra to its wholesale customers there is choice and there is no requirement for competitors like iiNet, Internode, Optus et all to offer services on the same basis as Big Pond. The fact is they do not and with the NGN this would still be the case.

There have been no formal proposal put by ANY of the would be players as to what services on the NGN would cost nor have there been ANY pricing strategies mentioned.

Any talk about how much services on the new network platform would cost is complete conjecture until there are published RETAIL prices.

Further to the pricing, there is the question of service offering . There has been nothing said by anyone as to what services will be provided on the NGN. There has been a blind assumption by anyone who has had the 2 cents worth to say that NGN will be just Broadband Internet. I think not.

The actual service offerings are yet to be announced by all parties.

Talk about putting the cart before the horse.
terryo
Jul 25, 2008 12:58 PM
I think you are drawing a very long bow to have us all believe that the only provider on the new NBN network will be Telstra. Please.....

This is scare mongering at its worst and you know it.

Telstra has repeately stated that it would operate an open network that would be available to all access seekers.

It is nothiong but fancifull to say the least that Telstra would have the NBN network all to itself... Come on what fools do you take us all for.

On the existing ADSL platform offered by Telstra to its wholesale customers there is choice and there is no requirement for competitors like iiNet, Internode, Optus et all to offer services on the same basis as Big Pond. The fact is they do not and with the NGN this would still be the case.

There have been no formal proposal put by ANY of the would be players as to what services on the NGN would cost nor have there been ANY pricing strategies mentioned.

Any talk about how much services on the new network platform would cost is complete conjecture until there are published RETAIL prices.

Further to the pricing, there is the question of service offering . There has been nothing said by anyone as to what services will be provided on the NGN. There has been a blind assumption by anyone who has had the 2 cents worth to say that NGN will be just Broadband Internet. I think not.

The actual service offerings are yet to be announced by all parties.

Talk about putting the cart before the horse.
gorbs
Jul 25, 2008 1:59 PM
Terryo, Telstra may have repeatedly stated that they'll offer an open access network, they have also said the same thing about their current network while underhandedly disadvantaging competitor access.

You also draw comparisons to the existing ADSL network and how it fosters diversity in market offerings and competition. This is the very same network that Telstra claims must be disbanded (or left to rot) with the build of the NBN.

But getting back on topic, Adam should be applauded for bringing to light the exhorbitant costs on crippled plans offered by players such as Telstra. I've noticed a welcome trend recently in the popular media of the techno-journalists beginning to sing this song. Hopefully, your mum and dad users will begin to realise they're being shafted.
EpaL
Jul 25, 2008 2:16 PM
Terryo,

So you actually think the Telstra will miraculously start playing fair with their competitors and start offering value for money to their retail consumers after nearly 15 years of doing exactly the opposite.

Have you been living under a rock?

Telstra continually show their disdain for competitiors and consumers alike by gouging, obstructing and generally doing everything they can to extract every cent from the Australian public. As a public company that is their right but they continually go too far and that just proves they cannot be trusted to own/build the NBN.
Adam Turner
Jul 25, 2008 10:54 PM
@terryo I think you need to cut back on the Telstra kool-aid. If Telstra builds the NBN it might be "available" to all access seekers, but under what terms? After looking at Telstra's track record, nobody in their right mind could believe that Telstra could be trusted to run the NBN as it sees fit.
brokey
Jul 26, 2008 12:19 PM
Glad I am with iiNet...I just hope for everyone else who is with an ISP and is able to get ADSL2+ that a deal can be struck where their d/ls aren't counted...
And that in the near future someone does see fit to remove the power that Telstra have and take control of the network argument...the only ones being hurt in this fight are the people that want faster and cheaper access..
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