TiVo v Foxtel iQ2 - and the yellow jersey goes to . . .
Jul 17, 2008 11:20 PM | 8 Comments


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Comments: 8
magoo
Jul 18, 2008 2:18 PM
2 weeks ago I decided to take the plunge and purchase a PVR. Much research was done, reading early reviews of the Tivo. But the ad skipping disable was a killer to me. Also, I was a bit wary about the potential for Channel 7 to start playing big brother and send me banner ad's etc.
So I went with a Beyonwiz DP-p1. Picked it up for $800. It has all the above mentioned features, including recorder padding. Add in interactive IceTV guide and I have season pass, favourites etc. recording. And I can do this remotely from work. Media streaming works like a charm and most importantly the Wife Acceptance Factor was a huge pass.
So if you want all the above+more-annoyances, look elsewhere.
bodog
Jul 18, 2008 2:40 PM
You should use Vista Media Center - it allows padding and there are both community free EPG's and a paid service - ICETV. A lot more versatile than these crippled devices!
Adam Turner
Jul 18, 2008 3:45 PM
sorry magoo and bodog, but I can't agree. I own a Vista Media Centre and I've got a Beyonwiz DP-S1 and DP-P2 sitting next to it. TiVo's core PVR features are better than both of them.

Firstly, the DP-P1 does not have all the above mentioned features. It doesn't have intelligent storage management, but they're talking about adding it. It also relies on IceTV to create a true Season Pass (again they're talking about adding it). You can read more about Beyonwiz v TiVo here;

Beyonwiz - the TiVo slayer walks among us?
http://www.hydrapinion.com/index.php/play/2008/07/18/beyonwiz-the-tivo-slayer-walks-among-us

As for the Vista Media Centre, the storage management is very good but the overlap management is dodgy and the padding options are crap. IceTV lets you improve this, but I've found it can be flaky. It's also hard work to keep a Vista MCE box running happily, mine always has something weird wrong with it. That's why I'm replacing it with a TiVo. I certainly wouldn't inflict a Vista MCE box on someone who doesn't like to tinker with computers.


bodog
Jul 18, 2008 7:28 PM
Adam
Guess we agree to disagree - but here's some food for thought.....
My VMC runs flawlessly without any tinkering (in fact it also functions as a "working PC" for my son (now there's a recipe for disaster!) who plays games on it as well). Maybe yours needs a rebuild (you haven't been "Tinkering" have you?
Mine runs a dual digital tuner and using ICETV I don't have any problems with overlap or padding, I just set defaults to a decent period and give series a decent overun when programming them. Can't blame VMC for the way our FTA channels seem to delight in changing their schedules or running late.
When I want more storage it's $99 for 750gb at the moment - what do you do with your TIVO?
Adam Turner
Jul 19, 2008 1:11 AM
The small hard drive is certainly TiVo's weak point, no argument there. I'll be looking to upgrade the internal drive as soon as someone publishes a decent howto written for Australian conditions. I rebuild the media centre every now and then, but then it slowly goes wonky again.
motoractive
Jul 21, 2008 8:58 PM
After relegating my 2 1/2 year old $4,000 Claritas Windows media centre to a door stop, I, and as you rightly point out, my wife, just want something simple that is reliable. I'm going to Hardly Normal tomorrow to try out the Tivo but the 160 gig hard drive is the big downer. Any idea how realistic it would be to expect someone to offer either a plug in additional storage, or replacement larger option? How much storage does the DP-DP1 have? and is it easily increased?
Spageddie
Jul 21, 2008 9:52 PM
I must say, having a PVR is handy but it I've found I can't record movies from foxtel so iam concidering Foxtel IQ.
Adam Turner
Jul 23, 2008 12:14 PM
Simple and reliable are certainly two important things when it comes to PVRs. I think the DP-P2 has a 300GB drive, but you can add external USB storage. Some HN stores have already started selling the TiVo (even though they're supposed to wait until July 29). There are already reports of Australians successfully upgrading the hard drive using these instructions;
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/17/how-to-upgrade-your-tivo-hd-with-winmfs/

I've obviously not going to try it on my TiVo review unit, but I might once I own a TiVo.
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