Windows 8: full details revealed

Windows 8: full details revealed

Traditional Windows desktop relegated as Microsoft moves into the touchscreen era

Microsoft has revealed full details of Windows 8, with an all-or-nothing approach to touch technology, writes Barry Collins in Los Angeles.

Inside Windows 8: a visual tour

All versions of Windows 8 - whether used on a touchscreen device or not - will use the operating system's new Metro interface, which was first developed for Windows Phone 7 devices.

The familiar Windows desktop, which has been the cornerstone of the operating system since Windows 95, has been effectively demoted to an "app".

Microsoft insists that the touch-oriented interface is suitable for any device, regardless of whether it has a touchscreen or not. "We envision an OS that scales from small form-factor, keyboardless tablets, all the way up to servers," said Windows president Steven Sinofsky, at a special press preview of the new operating system.

What's more, the company believes that every device should have a touchcreen. "The UI is the same UI, whether you use a mouse, keyboard or touch," said Jensen Harris, director of program management for the Windows Experience. "Every screen needs to be touch. A monitor without touch feels dead."

New app model

The advent of Windows 8 sees Microsoft introduce a new style of application, dubbed Metro Style apps, and its own app Store. The Metro Style apps are run in full-screen mode, with no Windows taskbar or other menu items getting in the way.

"Every single pixel of your beautiful screen is for your app," said Harris. "You're just immersed in the content."

Metro Style apps have more in common with the lightweight web apps found in Google Chrome than traditional Windows software. They can be written in HTML, CSS and JavaScript, as well as the more traditional C and C++ programming languages.

Microsoft will automatically syncrhonise a user's Metro Style apps across their Windows 8 devices, and allow users to pick up an app from where they left off on another device.

The Metro Style apps will be downloadable for the Microsoft Store, which offers developers the chance to offer "free trials" of their applications to customers, automatically wiping the app from users' machines when the trial period expires. All software distributed through Microsoft's Store has to be vetted by the company first - a process that the company claims will take mere hours, not the days and weeks that developers wait for software to be approved by Apple.

Old-style desktop

There will still be a place for traditional, desktop-style applications. These will run from the Windows 7-style Desktop, which now appears as an app on the Windows 8 Start Screen. "The Desktop is just another app that you can launch when you want to," said Harris. "There are no compromises. When you want a mouse and keyboard you can have it."

Microsoft insisted it wasn't trying to phase out desktop software in favour of the Metro apps. "There's no new conspiracy here," said Steven Sinofsky, in a spiky exchange with journalists who questioned Microsoft's motives. "We don't think the Desktop is some old place that you will never want to go."

Traditional x86 software will also be sold in the Store alongside the Metro apps.

No version announcements

Microsoft hasn't announced a release date, price or even which versions of Windows 8 will be offered to consumers and businesses. Sinofsky did however suggest there will be an element of differentiation between the versions of Windows that run on traditional x86 processors and the version running on ARM-based chips.

Despite showing off versions of Microsoft Office running on ARM processors earlier this year, Sinofsky claimed the "vast library" of x86 software "is not an asset we're going to port to ARM."

New Metro Style apps coded in HTML/JavaScript will, however, run equally as well on ARM processors as x86, suggesting Microsoft views the ARM versions of Windows as a pure tablet play.

Source: Copyright © PC Pro, Dennis Publishing

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gordo351
14 September 2011
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/ ....
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lrd390
14 September 2011
I just can't wait to have my monitor covered in dirty fingerprints. perhaps the micro$soft designers should write all their code by touch (perhaps they do - that explains the patches)
ory_zm
14 September 2011
Ya, can't imagine myself touching my PC's screen, we need another step in touch technology: touch without touching (think minority report).
pvisser
14 September 2011
Not convinced either. I like the monitor at the far end of my table so I have space for my paperwork etc. Not great if I have to touch the screen regularly. Ok, I can use the traditional desktop too and keyboard, which I have to launch using an app... What's an app anyway? Looks like a shortcut to a program to me. Ok, they are 'live' tiles in Win8. Sounds like the desktop sidebar but spread all over the desktop blocking my nice desktop background photo. I only see those sidebars on computers of people that do not know how to remove them. Let's see what the opposition, innovator and market leader in touch devices did again: OS X Pussycat for the computers and iOS for handhelds. Clear distinction. Take note MS. iOS is about 600MB already. A single OS for all Win devices? Gonna be too big for small devices.
workingdog
14 September 2011
What actually causes the people at Windows to continually stuff up? I can just imagine all the brokers operating multiple screens (on top of visual modules)...jumping up and down, reaching across their desks trying to desperately touch their screens.
And the great majority of people who use desktops all over the world (who are just users and not computer literate) not knowing whether they type, touch or click.
As Forrest Gump famously said. "Stupid is as Stupid does". He was probably talking about Windows.!
tecma
14 September 2011
Windows 8!!!! We haven't got Windows 7 stable, with even the experts having trouble running it effectively, yet the great Microsoft is introducing Windows 8. What the hell are the they thinking, or should I say what the hell are they smoking?

Now they are going "touchscreen", with all the inherent problems that poses, as ird390 said, with all the fingerprints all over the screen. Is it any wonder that I still use XP and seriously thinking of changing to either Apple or Linux. Having worked with UNIX in the past, I am leaning that way. Never ever had those problems when using that OS.

Another quote(modified) from Forrest Gump. "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what Microsoft is going to give you"

Be careful, be very, very careful

photohounds
14 September 2011
+1 all

A quick translation of the MS stance - "All this touchy-feely stuff gives me the creeps, but at least we can say we were first (Linux doesn't count) and that means we are innovating".

Does that kind of 'thinking' sound like another big computer OS vendor by any chance?

I've been ignoring 'gesture-based' desktops on Linux for years - perhaps I should just "get with it" and stop amputating the fingers that touch my PC screen?

A whole new world of grubby computing has just opened up - and that's BEFORE the patent suits start flying ...
amcmo
14 September 2011
Ah Photo,

Couldn't resist the dig could you?

What does the other OS vendor have to do with MS's latest attempt to stuff up an OS release?

Sticking to thread. I don't like the look of it and see us sticking with Win7 for as long as possible. And No, I don't want MS's version of anti-Virus built in, guaranteed to be a foul up.
j876
14 September 2011
This is a big gamble for Microsoft, it would be either two things another Vista/Millenium debacle or a half decent OS with a decent market share what will happen we will find out soon.

Edited by J876: 14/9/2011 06:20:14 PM
blockcentre
14 September 2011
I don't understand the bashing here.

Everyone seems willing to judge the OS based on a discussion on a couple of aspects. From the images posted on the site it looks fairly impressive to me. Like every other Windows OS the user experience will most likely be very customisable.

Do I want a touch screen interface on my desktop? No, of course not. It sounds absurd. But it's clearly not the only option and for some it might be ideal. It's getting the press right now because it's different.

I'm far more interested in features such as the improved desktop lock screen (which is just awesome), the multiple desktops, the improved task manager, the improved task switching, mountable ISO's, etc, etc.

There will be more to this OS than just a new UI that's optional.

As for Windows 7 stability, we've got 6 machines running Windows 7 at home and zero blue screens, lock ups, crashes, etc. We're deploying Win 7 on all machines at work at the moment and it's made them faster, more stable and run smoother with our 2008 server than what Win XP was. Maybe we're just lucky? Most stability issues with Windows will stem from your choice in hardware.
j876
14 September 2011
Thankyou blockcentre. Give it a chance people!

Also it is tageted both for desktops and tablets and you can still drive it with a keyboard and mouse.

I have never seen this much critism given to the beloved Apple or the thousands of Linux distributions. Why do people on these forums let them off the hook so easily?
rubaiyat
14 September 2011
j876 wrote:
I have never seen this much critism given to the beloved Apple or the thousands of Linux distributions. Why do people on these forums let them off the hook so easily?


You must be reading these forums with your head in a bucket if you believe that.
ory_zm
14 September 2011
blockcentre wrote:
I don't understand the bashing here.
...
As for Windows 7 stability, we've got 6 machines running Windows 7 at home and zero blue screens, lock ups, crashes, etc. We're deploying Win 7 on all machines at work at the moment and it's made them faster, more stable and run smoother with our 2008 server than what Win XP was. Maybe we're just lucky? Most stability issues with Windows will stem from your choice in hardware.


+1

2 windows 7 machines, no issues what so ever.. my work xp machine - now that is a different story! not a single day where I wish I could upgrade to 7 (can't because of legacy software, thanks IBM Rational!)

I too think that Win 8 looks intriguing, it could be a dud like Vista, but no where in the article is that implied! the ideas sound interesting, it will all fall (or rise) on the implementation.

And BTW, MS Essentials is one of the best free anti virus in the market, I welcome the idea of windows coming with a basic anti virus, if you want more you can purchase one, but at least you are protected out of the box.

PS photohounds- not a big fan of the big A (edit = myself), but could you give it a rest?! this is an article about MS Windows for crying out loud ](*,)

Edited by ory_zm: 14/9/2011 07:23:07 PM
j876
15 September 2011
I do not have my head in the bucket. I have read the revews and articles about Mac OSX Lion and no one critisises it.

If Microsoft realeses a new version of Windows, everybody starts bagging it.
lrd390
15 September 2011
Now I have tried it. Help - it displays temperatures in Fahrenheit, Once I started IE, I had to use task manager to get out of it. Talk about hell on wheels. I accidentally hit the windows key and got back to the "desktop" Haven't found a way to see the start menu properly. I can just see its success in a traditional office (NOT)
lrd390
15 September 2011
If anyone finds a way to turn the damn thing off please let us know - I just turned off the power!
rubaiyat
16 September 2011
j876 wrote:
I do not have my head in the bucket. I have read the revews and articles about Mac OSX Lion and no one critisises it.

If Microsoft realeses a new version of Windows, everybody starts bagging it.


You must be kidding!!!!!

I am pro OSX and I have criticised it.

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/07/mac-os-x-lion-this-is-not-the-future-we-were-hoping-for/

Edited by rubaiyat: 16/9/2011 05:08:03 AM
amcmo
16 September 2011
Chat with our IT guys this morning.

OSX Lion, has some 'bugs'they are not enthused over, however on the whole reasonably happy.

I have Lion on my Air and don't have any real issues, though still learning - it only gets pulled out at night or on trips.

Win 8 Already wiped from the IT test machine. Hate was one of the words used. Lasted even shorter time than Vista.

As an MS partner, we have Vista discs that have never been removed from their sleeves, and on first glance IT's view is why bother with Win 8 either?

Hopefully there's more to come to make it an easier use.
Reggie
16 September 2011
@Ird390 log off then start typing to get to logon screen then power symbol on bottom right. Damn it's awful. I'm not articulate enough to give it the bagging it deserves. Just one bad idea after another! One upside is the ribbon interface on explorer looks to be an improvement, I'll stick with Directory Opus though. I really hope that one day MS will produce a cut-down to the bare minimum OS for Scientists/Engineers. This literally is a layer of crap on a layer of crap...
jazz
20 September 2011
Nice discussion going on.
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